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Md. Gov. Promises Not To Monitor Peace, Anti-Death Penalty Groups In Wake Of Police Targeting Activists
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- "Everything is monitored, including this board."
Posted by SistaTee
Buck Fush. Chuck Feney, also.
Let them monitor that. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by harp1963 at 12:55 AM : Jul 20, 2008----- Did you know these tares or "weeds" look in appearance on the outside just like wheat, but on the inside the seed is very dark compared to wheat.....That is why the Lord of Hosts says in his book that he looks on your heart, not the color of your skin.
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PS-- Want to know where your next generation of brownshirted fascists will come from?
Your local police and state police-- while staffed with at least as many upright, professionally responsible officers-- has a unique appeal to a fringe element which enjoys the aspect of power and violence.
As with bad apples anywhere, it takes strong internal discipline for a department to investigate, remove and stay free of them. Fired from a governmental police agency, such apples will move to other, parallel departments, or enter freelance "investigative" or corporate "security" work.
The more professionnl agencies steer clear of them, if only from a sincere desire for self-preservation.
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- So, the governor of Maryland thinks the police shouldn''t spy on you just because you disagree with the government. HE just got his name on the terror watch list!! I don''t see how we can keep all this homeland security money and hardware going if we start using that f-ing constitution again. Maybe I''ll get another tax break. NOT. The police will just ignore him.
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- PS-- Want to know where your next generation of brownshirted fascists will come from?
Your local police and state police-- while staffed with at least as many upright, professionally responsible officers-- has a unique appeal to a fringe element which enjoys the aspect of power and violence.
As with bad apples anywhere, it takes strong internal discipline for a department to investigate, remove and stay free of them. Fired from a governmental police agency, such apples will move to other, parallel departments, or enter freelance "investigative" or corporate "security" work.
The more professionnl agencies steer clear of them, if only from a sincere desire for self-preservation. - Reply to this comment
- Police have an obligation to exercise due diligence in their commission to protect the public. This is not a blank check, however, as was made clear during the 1960''s and 1970''s with a firestorm of criticism over FBI Countelpro programs.
The need-to-know vs. the right to privacy is always a balancing act. Witness the creation of the FISA court to decide wiretap / surveillance issues, rather than POTUS.
Nonetheless, the reigning principle should be whether there is a reasonable cause to investigate any individual or group, based on facts about the subject(s) of the probe. "Just in case" is not a plausible grounds for investigation, but a fishing license, instead. Leaving one''s home, only to find a police car or other, unmarked car tailing is something expected in the PRC or Russia. It should not happen here.
If eternal vigiilance is the price of liberty, that axiom applies especially to citizens who must watch their police for abuses of civil rights. Power corrupts, and never so quickly as when a badge is involved. - Reply to this comment
- Everything is monitored, including this board.
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- "Only when information regarding criminal activity is alleged will police continue to investigate leads to ensure the public safety."
Oh, sure. We believe you.
Don''t we gang? - Reply to this comment
- Not a big surprise ... torturing *terrorist suspects* is a *end justifies the means* tactic, this is just another form of that, just like shaky probable cause being allowed to slide.
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- Nothing surprising here! This kind of activity was the hallmark of the FBI during the Vietnam years.
Plus the cops acting as agents provocateur to stir up trouble, allowing the cops, or their agents like *** Angels thugs, to assault and murder protestors.
Welcome to Amerika! - Reply to this comment
- This is the same thing that Nixon did in violation of the Constitution and Rule of Law, and we all know how that turned out.....but this is a new day and Traitors and Criminals are now to be revered and applauded......according to the GOP.......Up is Down, Black is White, and Treason is described as "The Patriot Act"......unbelievable........
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- Just go to youtube and listen to Fascist Cops discussing how a Citizen having a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights is "Illegal", and that they must be "Terrorists". (I couldn''''t believe it either, but it''''s there).....The Nazis used the same exact tactics to Brainwash their Simpleton Brownshirt Stooges into Murdering Millions......
Posted by vnveteran72 at 07:27 PM : Jul 19, 2008
How dare they!?!?!? Those documents are ours by law and by birthright! I am so angry right now I am shaking!! Those a$$holes need to go back to American Civics class in junior high school, now known as middle school, and learn something about America! Our unesteemed leader and his cronies need to be their classmates. - Reply to this comment
- Cardin noted federal anti-terrorism guidelines and regulations expressly prohibit the collection or maintenance of criminal intelligence information about the political, religious or social views, associations, or activities of any individual or any group unless it directly relates to criminal activity.
One database entry in the documents describes a peace group''s preparation for 2005 meetings on Iraqi war policy in Washington and Baltimore with Cardin, who was a congressman at the time, the senator noted.
Maryland state police Col. Terrence B. Sheridan said in a statement Thursday that his agency has never done anything illegal to citizens or groups that have exercised their right to free speech and assembly.
"Only when information regarding criminal activity is alleged will police continue to investigate leads to ensure the public safety," the statement said.
Apparently Col. Sheridan didn''t follow his own statement in regard to not investigating non-criminal activities of citizens. I can guarantee this Neocon Nazi Storm Trooper would profess a far different opinion in private or in the company of his like-minded cohorts. I can guarantee he has a signed photo of Shrub on his wall that he wacks off to..... - Reply to this comment
Officer Friendly at Maryland state police says: "Trust us, we know what we''re doing when we spy on you and you can rest assure that we won''t be violating anyone''s civil rights"- Reply to this comment
- "It is about time for example that data be collected to support the judgements of police on reasonable grounds for investigations and even searches."
Good point. it is not just Gitmo where rights are under attack. The biggest fight for freedom is not in Iraq, it is right here in the USA. And the enemies are often those who pretend to be protecting us... - Reply to this comment
- This also proves the Theory that Dimbulb Cops are easily led into Subverting the Constitution and Rule of Law by telling them that their Fuhrer demands and Rewards Loyalty to the Reich. Those that don''t fall into line are forced out as not being "Part of the Team" and "Unpatriotic", "Leftists", etc.,....
Just go to youtube and listen to Fascist Cops discussing how a Citizen having a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights is "Illegal", and that they must be "Terrorists". (I couldn''t believe it either, but it''s there).....The Nazis used the same exact tactics to Brainwash their Simpleton Brownshirt Stooges into Murdering Millions...... - Reply to this comment
Maryland state police Col. Terrence B. Sheridan
sounds like a terrorist.- Reply to this comment
- This Neocon Nazi Crime Cartel detests Dissent. They view it as an Antiquated and Quaint Holdover of our once Free Nation of America, and not really helpful in their Plans to institute their Fascist Police State. Time for the Revolution people......
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- The Republicans are useless they spend and say oh no it is the Democrats.
You morons wasted 300 labor hours going after peace and anti-capital punishment groups. This is waste what are we going have to do remove all Republicans from office I guess. - Reply to this comment
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