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Military Says Exercise Is Necessary To Teach Soldiers How To Treat Battlefield Injuries

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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:23 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:17 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:17 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had. As for gunshot wounds on the pigs, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by greghad July 18, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
I''ve been through the training, as well as medical school and was a paramedic. I have tried them all- cadaver, simulated humans, computer-based programs, and the E.R. My class had two-hundred soldiers being trained in gunshot wounds as you know, simulated improvised explosive device injuries, collapsed lungs and blocked airways. Tell me how you are going to give hands-on training to two-hundred students in one-week''s time in hospitals? The course was deemed by the highest ranking doctor to the lowest ranking medic as being the best medical training we have ever had in the military. As for the gunshot wounds, we were never present during the wounding, and instead raced to the casualty after they were done (like it usually happens for medics in the real deal). We need to train many more people in one week than there are patients in a year of medicine in the whole nation. I am not interested in preserving the lives of a farm animal in trade for a dead soldier or, quite possibly, a civilian victim here in America that one of my soldiers could have saved if afforded this training. This is your military making the decision, who are honorable as a unit and as individuals, and would not allow an animal to be killed needlessly. Please allow us to bring as many of our troops home alive instead of ignorantly condemning the best medical training any of us soldiers have ever gotten.
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by whiskyrocker July 18, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
Maybe the PETA a$$holes could be the subjects instead of the pigs.
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by libsluv2spit July 18, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
if it would save lives..a soldier''s life..i prefer the soldier than the pig..

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by messiahx4eve July 18, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
What about the hundreds of deathrow inmates? Why can''t they be used? Sentenced to death right? IF they survive, grant them a pardon. Use convicted s*e*x offenders and rapists, shorter time for service to their country perhaps?
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by figuy30 July 18, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
This is just more U.S. government stupidity. Why should any animal be tormented because some jerk says this is a great idea? I don''t think any American soldier should be shot either, because of another great "war for profit". Shouldn''t we be thinking about ending this war? We could keep our pigs and bring our troops home too!
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by bustamcnutty July 18, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
Who get''''s the meat if the animal dies? I''''m serious, killing an animal other than for food or self preservation, or to end it''''s suffering is just plain wrong!

im pretty sure the put the pig down,unless the soilder fail to save him in the first place.i think this is about on the same level as giving a lab animal a disease or testing the effects of some chemical on them.do you people actually wont them to go to a er and practice on civilian''s.imagine the lawsuits from that.carry on..........................
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