Comments on: White House: No Greenhouse Gas Regulation

Citing Effects On U.S. Economy, Bush Passes Global Warming Problem To Next Administration

[jimfinster]

Good.

Man caused global warming is the second biggest scam ever pulled off, the first being organized religion.

Sometimes this President gets somethings right.

Posted by Barocalto



You are 50% correct :)

[fstop100]

What a crock. All our jobs are going to China anyway, and they don''t give a rats arse about pollution. But then neither does G.W. the worst president in the history of America.

[wdrussell1]

George''s only accomplishment in two terms.

Being the pro-pollution president.

[barocalto]

Good.

Man caused global warming is the second biggest scam ever pulled off, the first being organized religion.

Sometimes this President gets somethings right.

[ubrew12]

fiberglass3 said: "With the high price of gasoline there are far fewer vehicles on the road...Almost everyone is home with their cars parked in the driveway. "

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[omnibus66]

Climate change is a myth.

The earth is 7,000 years old.

Dinosaur fossils were put here by God to test us.

The moon landings were staged on a movie lot.

We are in the end of days.

We are winning the war on terror.

Fox News is ''fair and balanced''.

History will vindicate George W Bush.

If you believe any of the above, you need serious help.

[fiberglass3]

There is Greenhouse Gas reduction taking place anyway. With the high price of gasoline there are far fewer vehicles on the road.
Look around your neighborhood this weekend. Almost everyone is home with their cars parked in the driveway.

[smurfcrusher]

You know, now that I think of it, it''s perfectly reasonable for King George to not want to take action on this critical issue.

After all, he wouldn''t want to upset the people who approve of his presidency; either of them.

[jimfinster]

andor3:

Exactly. Many start off from an ideological position, then try to find facts to fit that position. Guess that is just human nature...

[smurfcrusher]

I guess I must be a cynic at heart. I never bought King George''s BS even when it was in style, around 2001.

So, this is completely predictable and in character. He''s helpless and hapless. Poor George just doesn''t get it.

[andor3]

jimfinster: "LOL, your answer clearly shows your position is ideological versus factual."

good summary! and there is no point in arguing with someone who is not basing their argument on facts. It just amazes me how people who claim to be "serious hard-headed" actually live in their own fantasy world where all the scientific facts in the universe do not outweigh the way they pretend things are.

[jimfinster]

I''''m glad Bush did this. It gives him a perfect score.

Posted by ubrew12


At least he is consistent. We can always count on him to do the wrong thing.

[ubrew12]

I''m glad Bush did this. It gives him a perfect score.

[ubrew12]

Seafang: "Well ubrew12, can you explain why these data sets need to be "corrected" ? Are you saying they really aren''t the correct global mean temperature after all."
ENSO cycles the entire planets temperature up (el nino) and down (el nina) because it affects the entire Pacific, which affects the entire world. Its therefore an oscillation whose effect masks the average rise in temperature over time. Remove this effect, and a smoother rise is easier to see (although its easy to see even if not removed). They mention in the article that with ENSO removed its easier to spot the effects of other climate drivers, like volcanoes.

[eddynewhope]

Posted by Seafang at 06:55 PM

Your disinformation betrays your ignorance and your alterior motives - anything for a buck eh? You fit right in with Cheney and company. You are pathetic sellouts to the end. What could you possibly gain from trying to spin this so egregiously just like the American Petroleum Institute? No worries. You and your kind will be swept aside soon enough. You are obsolete.

[aerhed]

Seafang pulls all this *** out of his delusional b-hole. His "Norwegian glaciologist" is proably some kipper chewing drunk. I''ll match my good old USA glaciologist against him any day. Anyway, I can actually SEE the glaciers here shrink. Explain that Seawhang!

[jimfinster]

Professor Seafang:

Human CO2 emissions are not "peanuts compared to natural sources". In fact, just the opposite. Please do a little research and at least get the basic facts right. Thanks.

[jimfinster]

Well Jim

(1) don''''t know; don''''t care, it is peanuts compared to natural emissions.

(2) yes; so what?

(3) Well over the last 600 million years since the start of the Cambrian, the CO2 (GHG) has changed from 7000 ppm to its present lowest levels ever in the 3-400 ppm range, and the temperature has remained constant for almost that whole time except for drops during ice age eras.
So the short answer is nothing; except for water, which you may recall is unique among GHGs in that ONLY WATER exists in the atmosphere in all three phases, solid, liquid, and gas, and as a gas it warms, but as a liquid or solid (cloud) it COOLS.
NOBODY has ever observed it to warm up when a cloud passes in front of the sun; it ALWAYS cools; and that is why CO2 has no effect whatsoever and never has had.

Posted by Seafang


LOL, your answer clearly shows your position is ideological versus factual.

I have had this same conversation with other like yourself. They never know the basic facts, but are adamant in their position.

[seafang]

Well ubrew12, can you explain why these data sets need to be "corrected" ? Are you saying they really aren''t the correct global mean temperature after all.
If they were the real temperature of the planet, there would be no need to "correct them"
And of course, depending on how your "correct" them, you can generate what result you want.
Fact remains, that 2007 was PREDICTED to be the WARMEST year on record. Instead, from Jan 2007 to Jan 2008, the temperature dropped by the largest temperature change that has ever been observed (measured data) on planet earth, and it has been going down ever since. May 2008 was the COLDEST May ever recorded globally, as part of that precipitous drop.Have you noticed that GISS (Hansen) and Realclimate are not too swift about reporting, those rapid declines, of the last two years that have now reset the temperature back to the late 19th century.
My Nobel prize winning Norwegian glaciologist contact, who lives on Greenland tells me that there is more ice now in the arctic than at any time in the last two decades.
I have in front of me a letter which describes the dramatic loss of ice in the arctic,and the new discoveries that will be possible as a result of that open navigable water. The letetr is from the President of the Royal Society to the British Admiralty, on Nov 20th 1817; which I''m sure you know was "the year without a summer"
What goes around comes around.

[concerned222]

I don''t want to do a lot of things but I''m not passing the buck to someone else. This just sounds like someone not wanting to face the issues. Now is not the time to wait and pass it to someone else. Get some backbone and guts and do something important for a change. Not doing anything proves the lame duck theory. I have no use for laziness or incompetence. Do your job or get out!