Comments on: Emergency Room Death Sparks Outrage

NYC Woman's Videotaped Death Recalls Similar Incident Last Year In Los Angeles

[erasmus81]

"The problem is that since health care is privatized in the USA..." Posted by O2BeWealthy at 08:24 PM : Jul 02, 2008

Once something has become "private", people no longer have control over what is being done. They no longer have a say in the cleanliness of a hospital or how it is run. With the government running things, then the people have a say, or at least here we do.

[rudy654-2009]

Posted by erasmus81 at 06:05 PM

In fact, year after year Americans return praising the Canadian Health Care system. But there are paid hacks by the insurance industry that come out in droves at the mention of a change in how we get health care, and they will trump up stories that are simply unbelievable. One fellow actually suggested that in Canada and Europe they kill their homeless so that nobody sees what a mess there programs are. That''s how desperate these money hungry thieves are.

[erasmus81]

Half the population couldn''''t find Canada on a North American Atlas....:) Posted by dragonwagon5 at 07:17 PM : Jul 02, 2008

Hahaha, that''s funny. Actually, I think on this website once, there was an article saying that a lot of Americans couldn''t find their own country on a map. I found that hard to believe.

[o2bewealthy]

I call BS on the negative comments about Universal Health Care. I currently live overseas in a country that has universal health care. I pay 1.5% out of my taxes to health care and get BETTER care than I ever got in the USA, including having surgery done to fix problems that my USA health insurer said were not life threatening. The problem is that since health care is privatized in the USA, you only get good care if you can afford it. If you can''t afford it, tough luck, sucker.

[rudy654-2009]

Posted by cbville70 at 08:13 PM

As you just demonstrated, it wouldn''t have mattered if the man was white or black because sick racists such as yourself will have some dribble sliding out their mouths no matter what.

[cbville70]

It appears that the security guard in the one video is white. Thank god he wasn''t black, because then Al Sharpton and Jesse Blaxson would have sued the hospital for "civil rights" violations. They would have marched against the hospital. Like they did when the Duke lacrosse players were accused of raping a black ***. I never heard their thoughts on the case once it was reported the girl lied and there was no proof of anything and the charges (all of them) were dropped. I must have missed that.

[cbville70]

Ever notice how the people at the very top are ready to perform some blood letting in situations like this.

Yeah I know what you mean.
Who got fired when Osama Bin Laden attacked the WTC the 1st time under Clintons watch? Who did he fire after Bin Laden carried out the 2nd attack against the US with the USS Cole?

[nurse26-2009]

Im a nurse of approx 4 years i think its a sin how health care is conducted in this country. Hospital staff are overworked, underpaid, and understaffed. Just like the gas companies hospital administration, ceos, and health insurance companies are pulling in billions of dollars yearly and its not being used to staff hospitals appropriately therefore people are dying, not just in emergency rooms, or getting the time and attention they rightfully deserve will in the hospital and other long term health care systems ie: nursing homes. Until your health insurance companies and the big wigs of hospitals start listening to the front line of health care, the nurses, nothing will change it will only get worse just look at gas prices.

[cbville70]

The reality is what it is. Our society is eroding because the right wing republican party that represents capitalists complained that government was too big, too inefficient and too costly. These are the people who began awarding themselves higher salaries to slash the systems wrists. Their sorry unaccountable azzes just blame the "little people" and fire them.


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Posted by l8c6 at 06:56 PM : Jul 02, 2008

So i guess what we need to do is to have a democrat in every office. Bail out the slobs that can''t pay their mortgage and caused this PERSONAL DECISION CRISIS that is reported in the news media as a "sub prime mortgage crisis" or "the housing market crisis". We''ll also haev gov''t controlled health care in which EVERYBODY gets the same thing no matter what we do. We''ll make all the illegal immigrants citizens just like we do all the people that went through the normal legal channels to gain citizenship. Things will be great. It''ll be the Republic of the USA. Communism for all.
Oh Wait....we live in a democracy.
Now I know why liberals are always so mad. They were born in the wrong country.
Move to China or Korea and live happily and hippily ever after.
D00shbags!

[ender18-2009]

We have an overburdened hospital stressed by an endless supply of sick patients and overeager malpractice lawyers. Every patient needs to be meticulously documented on, with hundreds of unecessary tests to make sure the hospital does not get sued. Every headache leads to a CT scan, or at least 30 minutes of documentation to cover your ***. In other countries, not so letiginous, physicans can see likely 2-3 times the number of people as we do.
The bottom line is that because we practice such defensive medicine, every ER and medicine clinic runs very slowly and inefficiently.

Now we are also going to have to document every 15 minutes what happens in the ER and pay someone to do it. We should fire the security guard, sue the other sick patients, and force a 24 hour monitor on the waiting room. These same funds meanwhile could have hired more physcians, vaccinated more kids or reduced our healthcare premiums.

[brianp55]

Let''s face it, this is not the ER at Stanford University Medical Center that we''re dealing with. What can you expect? I''m surprised they''re not dropping like flies.

[captjohn2]

No mention of pending legal charges against the fired staff workers! In my day,someone could be prosecuted for not intervening in cases of a dire nature and held as accessories to a wrong doing, even though they were not peace officers nor medics.

[captjohn2]

No mention of pending legal charges against the fired staff workers! In my day,someone could be prosecuted for not intervening in cases of a dire nature and held as accessories to a wrong doing, even though they were not peace officers nor medics.

[rgh3angel]

Better yet, instead of referrals for EMERGENCY SERVICES (how would that even work!?) why don''t we make sure all Americans have access to affordable healthcare and don''t have to rely on ER''s because they can''t afford routine healthcare. Then the hospitals wouldn''t be backed up and bogged down by the time and expense it takes to provide services for non emergency issues.

[taterbg1]

People complain about the long wait time in an ER. How about the reason it is so long. Do you stop to think about the thousands of people that tap out the resources of an ER? The ones that come in because they have a cold, or a cough that has gone on for weeks, or just to get their medicne refilled and didn''t want to wait 1 more day to call their doctor? Or the millions on state and goverment funded health care that seem to think an ER is a family doctor, only to say well "I don''t have to pay for it" no, we tax payers do. Most hospitals average 800.00 just to walk in. Why oh why don''t we implement that state insurance holders have to call a doctor to get a referal to an ER like private pay insurance holders do? If it is not life threating don''t tie up the ER. If it takes you 4-8 hours to be seen, just ask yourself is this life threating? Are there other patients sicker then me?

[l8c6]

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he was disgusted by the tape, and that the actions of the hospital staff were unacceptable.

"I think what they said is, ''Oh well, people sleep on the floor all the time, and I didn''t pay any attention,"'' he said. "They shouldn''t be sleeping on the floor ... and you should pay atte


Ever notice how the people at the very top are ready to perform some blood letting in situations like this. Our politicians and healthcare system is broken due to underfunding. The real conditions of these places are never presented to the public. The reality is what it is. Our society is eroding because the right wing republican party that represents capitalists complained that government was too big, too inefficient and too costly. These are the people who began awarding themselves higher salaries to slash the systems wrists. Their sorry unaccountable azzes just blame the "little people" and fire them.

[joan1v]

Don''t you just love it. People complain about how long they have to wait and uncaring attitude. However, you try to get one of them fired and you are right. ACLU and Rev. Sharpton or J. Jackson would be all over them. And then we wonder why people don''t take reponsiblity for their actions. They don''t have to they are protected and we have to pay.

I am tired to being politically correct. The truth is the truth

[lilith68-2009]

sad and wrong and pleasew dont think that it is a white or black or green or what ever because I have witnessed hospitals sending 65 yr old white women out because they said they were full so they could take care of a child molester/sexual deviant if you dont belive me check out Coalinga, ca 93210 yeaqh they have a jokepital

[erasmus81]

"We need to take drastic steps to take the parasitic insurance companies out of the business of profiting on the misery of others." Posted by komoncents at 05:29 PM : Jul 02, 2008

Where I live, the government looks after this. That is why it is very important that you vote in the right person as president. You have to be able to trust your government. They are supposed to be looking out for YOUR best interests.

Single people pay around $52 a month, for healthcare, here. Married couples pay around $90 a month and families $100+. For people making under $28,000? a year, it is free.

Most people have family doctors that they go to. And they can go whenever they want and how often they want. We can get into see a doctor right away. If you need to see one immediately and for some reason the doctor can''t fit you in that very day, then there are clinics that you can walk into without an appointment.

I know of no one that has had to wait long for specialist appointments or for surgeries. And if I need surgery, all I have to do is show up at the hospital. I don''t have to s-c-r-e-w around with insurance companies or speak to anyone beforehand. We also don''t have to worry about any insurance company cancelling our insurance or all of a sudden saying they won''t cover something.

I fail to see what is so bad about our healthcare.

[komoncents]

Health care is NOT an entitlement ...
Posted by nsSherlock1 at 05:34 PM : Jul 02, 2008

This is probably at the root of the problem - Countries around the world recognize health care as an Entitlement - here in the good ole USA it''s an opportunity to make money.