Comments on: Leona Helmsley Leaves Billions To Dogs
NY Times: Late Hotel Queen Wants $5B-$8B Trust Used For Care And Welfare Of Pooches
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- Then again, by your reasoning, I should sit down and watch a stranger being saved by his super pet.
Posted by reedtaz73 at 12:54 PM : Jul 02, 2008
Where did that come from? I said nothing like that or even close to it. - Reply to this comment
- SgtRDS-E4, you''d have to train dogs to save your life in most cases...say from a burning car. Your dog would sit there crying and yelping instead of helping. Me, I can open your car door just fine.
Then again, by your reasoning, I should sit down and watch a stranger being saved by his super pet. - Reply to this comment
- I disagree that it''''s always more precious. If my dog and an unknown stranger were standing in traffic and I had only one chance to save just one of them I''''m going to save my dog. Now that may change if the person in traffic were a child, but other then that my dog gets saved.
Posted by SgtRDS-E4 at 12:00 PM : Jul 02, 2008
That statement explains much of why and what you post.
Life has made you bitter.Life also made Leona bitter. Sad. - Reply to this comment
- SgtRDS-E4, a dogs life is short for a reason...BTW, you''d want a human at your side during a fire fight right? Sargent...
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- Anyone that chooses to better the life of a dog instead of finding ways to better the life of a human is trash.
Posted by reedtaz73 at 12:45 PM : Jul 02, 2008
Many more humans are trash then dogs. Most dogs are better then most people. - Reply to this comment
- My thoughts, exactly. A dog doesn''''t know any better, a person does.
Posted by erasmus81 at 12:21 PM : Jul 02, 2008
Besides, I know my dogs and I know they''re worth saving. I don''t know the stranger, so I don''t know if they''re as valuable to me as my dogs are. - Reply to this comment
- So I''m looking at the picture - the little white one on the right is Leona, I presume?
Wait, my monitor''s dirty, sorry... she''s the puffy one on the left. My bad!
The dog''s name is "Trouble"? It figures. - Reply to this comment
- Anyone that chooses to better the life of a dog instead of finding ways to better the life of a human is trash.
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- By the way, how old does your hypothetical child have to be until he loses his life in exchange for your dog''''s life?
Posted by shoebox119 at 12:36 PM : Jul 02, 2008
Below the age to know better. Less then say 8 or 10. - Reply to this comment
- Lately, there has been a growing trend among a very vocal minority that strongly believe in more or less terms that ''''animals are people'''', too. I shudder to think of the consequences should we, as a society, venture down this road too far.
Posted by shoebox119 at 11:33 AM : Jul 02, 2008
The consequences could be a "more humane society.
Posted by erasmus81
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That''s a start. Are you also ready to begin granting full civil rights to animals as well as government benefits like Social Security?
Don''t laugh... there are more people than you think that strongly believe we should. - Reply to this comment
- The bottom line is that human society has evolved over countless millennia with at least one established belief: human life is the most precious life of all. We generally live with this belief and our laws reflect it as well.
Posted by shoebox119 at 11:33 AM : Jul 02, 2008
I disagree that it''''s always more precious. If my dog and an unknown stranger were standing in traffic and I had only one chance to save just one of them I''''m going to save my dog. Now that may change if the person in traffic were a child, but other then that my dog gets saved.
Posted by SgtRDS-E4
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Debating hypotheticals is pretty useless because anyone can make up a situation that represents an exception to any established fact or set of beliefs.
I still say if this woman had been at all in touch with society, she more than likely would have spread her wealth around. I pity the woman... she more than likely lived in a bubble, surrounding herself only with her wants and desires. How sad, and what a waste.
By the way, how old does your hypothetical child have to be until he loses his life in exchange for your dog''s life? - Reply to this comment
- feddupp said: "what I have worked hard for all my life, I want going to WHOMEVER I put into my WILL!! So--HANDS OFF, "
I love a society that can so blithely make their heirs pay the $10 trillion national debt they racked up while they were alive, and then express the comment you just made. A prosecuted will is a gift by a living civil society to the dead. Giving billions to dogs rather than people doesn''t create living civil societies, it creates living corrupted societies (but alot of healthy dogs), just the kind of societies that would have no intention of following someones will. Helmsley gets what she asked for: to be ignored by our living civil society. And, if you chose to give your ''hard earned'' savings to a bunch of dogs, frankly, so do you. - Reply to this comment
- "If my dog and an unknown stranger were standing in traffic and I had only one chance to save just one of them I''''''''m going to save my dog. Now that may change if the person in traffic were a child, but other then that my dog gets saved." Posted by SgtRDS-E4 at 12:00 PM : Jul 02, 2008
My thoughts, exactly. A dog doesn''''t know any better, a person does.
Posted by erasmus81
I agree 100 per cent. There are too many people in the world, anyway. - Reply to this comment
- "If my dog and an unknown stranger were standing in traffic and I had only one chance to save just one of them I''''m going to save my dog. Now that may change if the person in traffic were a child, but other then that my dog gets saved." Posted by SgtRDS-E4 at 12:00 PM : Jul 02, 2008
My thoughts, exactly. A dog doesn''t know any better, a person does. - Reply to this comment
- I don''t know how you feel, but this story gives me CHILLS every time it''s brought up again!!
The very PURPOSE of a "will" is to disburse YOUR money$$$ the way YOU want it done after you''re dead and gone!!
If a judge can CHANGE the terms after you''ve made your wishes clear, what''s the USE???
I''ll never have BILLION$, but what I have worked hard for all my life, I want going to WHOMEVER I put into my WILL!!
So--HANDS OFF, all you ignorant judges! - Reply to this comment
- WHAT A STUPID STORY AND HOW IS THIS NEWS WORTHY IN ANY FRICKIN WAY WHAT SO EVER.
Posted by acolton1
What billionaires do with their money IS important. There aren''t that many of them, and what they do can impact a lot of people. Do you complain about all the stories about the prices of petrol, or about Bush''s daughters, or about the chick from Aruba who went missing or that blonde with the huge boobies who died last year? - Reply to this comment
Who''s calling who a dog?
Life''s a bittch.- Reply to this comment
- The bottom line is that human society has evolved over countless millennia with at least one established belief: human life is the most precious life of all. We generally live with this belief and our laws reflect it as well.
Posted by shoebox119 at 11:33 AM : Jul 02, 2008
I disagree that it''s always more precious. If my dog and an unknown stranger were standing in traffic and I had only one chance to save just one of them I''m going to save my dog. Now that may change if the person in traffic were a child, but other then that my dog gets saved. - Reply to this comment
- shoebox, what it will mean is the next time my neighbors dog humps my leg, I could have it arrested for sexual assault.
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- WHAT A STUPID STORY AND HOW IS THIS NEWS WORTHY IN ANY FRICKIN WAY WHAT SO EVER.
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