Comments on: Gun-Plagued Cities Decry Handgun Ruling

Washington D.C.'s Ban On Handguns Was Struck Down By Supreme Court Thursday

[jon2012-2009]

Posted by terrorislami at 12:22 PM : Jun 27, 2008

Okay, you can scream now, yes you got me there, that was oversight on my part, not including in the tally terrorist attacks on U.S. interests abroad. Still in terms of American lives lost and damage to property, they didn''t compare to 9/11 and Iraq.

[edgardebbins]

Armed robbers are not going to be happy about the possibility of a fair fight.

[terrorislami]

"The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun." -Patrick Henry

"Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace." -James Madison

"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." -Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8.

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." -George Washington

[terrorislami]

The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 46.

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all forms of positive government." -Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper No. 28.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776, Jefferson Papers 344

"The constitution of the United States asserts that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed and that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of press." -Thomas Jefferson

[terrorislami]

Posted by jon2012 at 12:31 PM : Jun 27, 2008

for you to be right,,, these guys would have to be wrong,,,

they are right,,, you are WRONG,,,

Thomas Jefferson

Patrick Henry

James Madison

Alexander Hamilton

George Washington

[terrorislami]

Posted by jon2012 at 12:31 PM : Jun 27, 2008

you are quite simply,,,

WRONGGGGGGGGGGGG nancy,,,

if that were true,,,

the government of the usa would have collected all the PEOPLES guns in december 1791,

THEY DID NOT

so the obvious intent of this amendment was not to take guns out of the hands of the PEOPLE,,,

IT SAYS,,,

both,,, that there can be a malitia

and it says:

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

GOT IT

[jon2012-2009]

Jon2012, I''''m not pro Bush but... SHUT UP!
When do you think the planning for 9/11 took place. CLinton was too busy cheating on his wife to ever see it coming.
Posted by Neocon9 at 12:17 PM : Jun 27, 2008

Let''s just go with facts. Bill Clinton''s indiscretions do not change them.

Terrorist Scores:
Clinton--WTC bombing (successful prosecution)
Bush--9/11, Iraq war (lots more costly than 9/11, unnecessary, Constitution thrashed, another Street Without Joy)

[terrorislami]

After 30 years of Pearson-Trudeau-Mulroney economic liberalism, the federal Government discovered, by observing the provinces, that the fiscal conservatism of Mackenzie King and St. Laurent had been right all along. Stockwell Day

Liberalism is financed by the dividends from Conservatism. Craig Bruce

"Socialism values equality more than liberty." Dennis Prager (Radio talk show host, author, lecturer)

"Socialism is nothing but the capitalism of the lower classes" Oswald Spengler (German Philosopher of history. 1880-1936)

[terrorislami]

"The assumption that spending more of the taxpayer''s money will make things better has survived all kinds of evidence that it has made things worse. The black family- which survived slavery, discrimination, poverty, wars and depressions- began to come apart as the federal government moved in with its well-financed programs to "help."" Thomas Sowell (American Writer and Economist, b.1930)

"Socialism is workable only in heaven where it isn''t needed, and in hell where they''ve got it" Cecil Palmer

%u201CLiberalism is totalitarianism with a human face%u201D Thomas Sowell

%u201CThe idea that you earn things - that you earn respect, that you earn income, responsibility. the vote, punishment... these ideas are anathema to the liberal mind.%u201D Dennis Prager

%u201CSomeone once said that a fool can put on his coat better than a wise man can put it on for him. The implications of that undermine most of the agenda of the political left.%u201D Thomas Sowell

Liberalism can only be defined negatively. It is a mere critique, not a living idea. Francis P. Yockey

in political trifles, has learned ever more artfully to unite a constant protest against the government with a constant submission to it. Alexander Herzen

[terrorislami]

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill (British Orator, Author and Prime Minister during World War II. 1874-1965)

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it" Thomas Sowell (American Writer and Economist, b.1930)

"Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion" Richard John Neuhaus

"Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude." Alexis de Tocqueville (French Historian and Political scientist. 1805-1959)

"Most people who read "The Communist Manifesto" probably have no idea that it was written by a couple of young men who had never worked a day in their lives, and who nevertheless spoke boldly in the name of "the workers"." surfun Thomas Sowell (American Writer and Economist, b.1930)

"Socialism is simply Communism for people without the testosterone to man the barricades" Gary North

"Socialism is the same as Communism, only better English" George Bernard Shaw (Irish literary Critic, Playwright and Essayist. 1925 Nobel Prize for Literature, 1856-1950)

[jon2012-2009]

MarkS7177......why do you keep ignoring the text.....it says the PEOPLE shall not be infringed.

WHY DO YOU KEEP REFERRING TO "REGULATED" AND "MILITIA" AND IGNORE ....."THE PEOPLE " part of it ?

Posted by Minuteman-1 at 11:45 AM : Jun 27, 2008

Go back and read the entire clause again. This right is tied to the security of the state. Why? Not for me to argue.

[terrorislami]

David Mamet: Why I Am No Longer a ''Brain-Dead Liberal''

we in the United States get from day to day under rather wonderful and privileged circumstances%u2014that we are not and never have been the villains that some of the world and some of our citizens make us out to be, but that we are a confection of normal individuals living under a spectacularly effective compact called the Constitution, and lucky to get it.

And I began to question my distrust of the "Bad, Bad Military" of my youth, which, I saw, was then and is now made up of those men and women who actually risk their lives to protect the rest of us from a very hostile world. Is the military always right? No. Neither is government, nor are the corporations%u2014they are just different signposts for the particular amalgamation of our country into separate working groups, if you will. Are these groups infallible, free from the possibility of mismanagement, corruption, or crime? No, and neither are you or I. So, taking the tragic view, the question was not "Is everything perfect?" but "How could it be better, at what cost, and according to whose definition?" Put into which form, things appeared to me to be unfolding pretty well.

a free-market understanding of the world meshes more perfectly with my experience than that idealistic vision I called liberalism.

David Mamet: Why I Am No Longer a ''Brain-Dead Liberal''
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0811,374064,374064,1.html

[terrorislami]

"Modern liberalism''s irrationality can only be understood as the product of psychopathology. So extravagant are the patterns of thinking, emoting, behaving and relating that characterize the liberal mind that its relentless protests and demands become understandable only as disorders of the psyche." "The Liberal Mind" reveals the madness of the modern liberal for what it is: a massive transference neurosis acted out in the world''s political arenas, with devastating effects on the institutions of liberty.

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

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[terrorislami]

Posted by jon2012 at 12:15 PM : Jun 27, 2008

wronggggggg

the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,,, inside job

the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel,,, inside job

the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel,,, inside job

the 1998 bombing of U.S . embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000,,, inside job

the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors,,, inside job

talk is no substitute for action,,,

kkklowntoon just gave us the same old tired speech and did nothing else,,,

"We will do whatever it takes, for as long as it takes, to find those who killed our sailors and hold them accountable."

yahhh right

[minuteman-1]

IOWEIGN....well, we thank god we don''t have a draft, and the all volunteer miltiary is excellent as it stands, everyone wants to be there.

Just imagine the chaos in the ranks of the military if lazy, "i don''t want to be here" Emo, pierced, goth, skaters were forced to be in the miltiary...it would be AWOL central

Then again, it might shape them up.....LOL

[9SLING]

Jon2012, I''m not pro Bush but... SHUT UP!
When do you think the planning for 9/11 took place. CLinton was too busy cheating on his wife to ever see it coming.

[jon2012-2009]

von_marko wrote
Bush''''''''''''''''s National Security Record:
1. No Attacks on US Soil in 7 years...
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GOOD POST!

Posted by txgrouch2006 at 11:25 AM : Jun 27, 2008

And let''s not forget Bush bumbling into Iraq war. More than 4,000 Americans dead and counting, tens of thousands injured, a couple of trillion dollars hit on the economy, not to mention a hundred thousand dead Iraqis and the standing of an international outlaw among nations.

The actual costs of 9/11 were much more modest although some of you might argue the psychological impact of a major terrorist strike within the U.S. borders is unacceptable and you''d rather pay 2 trillion dollars to fight an ongoing war and many more dead Americans as long as they died in some foreign country.

Both 9/11 and the Iraq war happened under Bush''s watch. Under Clinton, we can point to the World Trade Center bombing as the extent of success foreign terrorists might claim and then it was successfully prosecuted without thrashing the Constitution.

[von_marko]

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility,..."

There are those *** "people" again

[fedup_w_pols-2009]

Here you have leaders of cities with the most over the top gun control laws to go right along with their over the top murder rates telling us things will get worse without the laws they have now. YOu already have the worst murder rates with 32 years of gun control, your system has failed why is this not obvious. And to all you that would happily be lemmings to criminals with guns and force everyone to give up their rights to self defense go screw yourself. If you want the guns so bad go get them, unless of course you have something to fear? Like say being SHOT for trampling someone elses rights. We don''t need old foggies in blak robes to tell us our rights, the ink on those rights was dry 100+ years before they were even born so their "opinion," is of no value it is just an opinion. The 2nd is a tangible right and to do away with it would require the collection of the guns. Good luck with that. You can''t keep illegals out of the country, drugs out of jails and thugs off the streets but you CAN confiscate all law abiding gun owners property? Again I say best of luck to you, expect a high turnover rate for that job.

[txgrouch2006]

MarkS7177 surrendered
keep your warped pursuasions out of my community!
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OOOOHHH! That was such a GOOD SURRENDER, up to that sentence.

If you demanded to keep the SCOTUSA ruling out of your FAMILY, that would be fine.

But you went and said "community," which IS THE JURISDICTION OF OUR GOVERNMENT.

So, you persist in defying the SCOTUSA by demanding to remain brainwashed and to preserve your brainwashed thinking in your entire community, not just your own family.

Your right to perverted thinking is limited only to your own home.