Comments on: Americans: My Religion Isn't The Only Way

Survey Finds 70 Percent In U.S. Believe Other Faiths Can Lead To Eternal Life

[lib_crusher]

On the Contrary,
We would evolve into a more well rounded kind of species,
Fairy tales ala Dobson and Fat Hagee would be reduced to the Gehenna of time.

Posted by midland666 at 12:52 PM : Jun 24, 2008

Here''s the great part of being a Christian though midland. You can completely ignore Dobson or Fat Hagee, and still be a Christian...who believes in God....and believes that He is the right way.

But believing or refusing to believe because of other peoples'' influences? That''s pretty weak....

[lib_crusher]

People are so caught up with the Next Life that they totally miss out on doing good in this one.

Posted by retrospectre at 12:51 PM : Jun 24, 2008

Nevermind. You just like to see your own spam.

[midland666]

On the Contrary,
We would evolve into a more well rounded kind of species,
Fairy tales ala Dobson and Fat Hagee would be reduced to the Gehenna of time.

[R3tr0]

I do not have a hard time imagining a father allowing his son to suffer the sins of the world and a most painful and gruesome death.



I just dont see how that equates to the freeing of our spirits, to forgiving of our sins and allowing the opportunity to share a closer relationship with the Lord and the hope and reality of going to heaven to be with Him at the end of our lives.



I do not see the cause and effect of it.



To me, it makes no sense.



Because the world is still filled with sin.



And Christ%u2019s death did nothing to end that.



And just believing in Christ to me is not good enough and not enough in my mind for someones salvation.



I believe it is your ACTS and what you do in this life and with your life that dictates salvation.



Not just believing.



IF there is anything to take from the story of Christ it is the way he ACTED and the way he lived his life.



People misunderstand that and do not follow in those footsteps.



They just think that by saying I accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior that they are saved.



And I feel that is just horse-hockey.



But then again the whole concept of Being Saved is horse-hockey to me too.



People are so caught up with the Next Life that they totally miss out on doing good in this one.

[lib_crusher]

I just don%u2019t see how that equates to the freeing of our spirits, to forgiving of our sins and allowing the opportunity to share a closer relationship with the Lord and the hope and reality of going to heaven to be with Him at the end of our lives.

Posted by retrospectre at 12:45 PM : Jun 24, 2008


You don''t understand this because it''s not a simple idea to grasp. Most people make a simple statement like "Jesus died for our sins on the cross", but it''s not as simple as all that. You have to understand why he died and what was happening before and after that period of history.

Jesus'' death and what happened afterward were astonishingly miraculous events.

Unfortunately, it''s been dumbed down so badly, that a lot of people today don''t believe because they don''t follow history or the Bible at all.

[flabear2]

"IF there is anything to take from the story of Christ %u2013 it is the way he ACTED and the way he lived his life."

Saint Francis of Assisi once said, "Preach the Gospels at all times. If necessary, use words."

[R3tr0]

I do not have a hard time imagining a father allowing his son to suffer the sins of the world and a most painful and gruesome death.



I just don%u2019t see how that equates to the freeing of our spirits, to forgiving of our sins and allowing the opportunity to share a closer relationship with the Lord and the hope and reality of going to heaven to be with Him at the end of our lives.



I do not see the cause and effect of it.



To me, it makes no sense.



Because the world is still filled with sin.



And Christ%u2019s death did nothing to end that.



And just believing in Christ, to me, is not good enough, not enough in my mind for someone%u2019s salvation.



I believe it is your ACTS and what you do in this life with your life that dictates salvation.



Not just %u201Cbelieving%u201D.



IF there is anything to take from the story of Christ it is the way he ACTED and the way he lived his life.



People misunderstand that and do not follow in those footsteps.



They just think that by saying %u201C I accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior%u201D that they are saved.



And I feel that is just horse-hockey.



But then again the whole concept of %u201CBeing Saved%u201D is horse-hockey to me too.



People are so caught up with the %u201CNext Life%u201D that they totally miss out on doing good in this one.

[R3tr0]

I do not have a hard time imagining a father allowing his son to suffer the sins of the world and a most painful and gruesome death.



I just don%u2019t see how that equates to the freeing of our spirits, to forgiving of our sins and allowing the opportunity to share a closer relationship with the Lord and the hope and reality of going to heaven to be with Him at the end of our lives.



I do not see the cause and effect of it.



To me, it makes no sense.



Because the world is still filled with sin.



And Christ%u2019s death did nothing to end that.



And just believing in Christ %u2013 to me %u2013 is not good enough %u2013 not enough %u2013 in my mind %u2013 for someone%u2019s salvation.



I believe it is your ACTS %u2013 what you do in this life %u2013 with your life %u2013 that dictates salvation.



Not just %u201Cbelieving%u201D.



IF there is anything to take from the story of Christ %u2013 it is the way he ACTED and the way he lived his life.



People misunderstand that %u2013 and do not follow in those footsteps.



They just think that by saying %u201C I accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior%u201D that they are saved.



And I feel that is just horse-hockey.



But then again %u2013 the whole concept of %u201CBeing Saved%u201D is horse-hockey to me too.



People are so caught up with the %u201CNext Life%u201D %u2013 that they totally miss out on doing good in this one.

[flabear2]

"I still believe what I believe but you have made a good case for yourself. Unlike the others."

As long as you have faith that what you believe is true, then no one can take it away from you. We believe different things, but ultimately it is our faith and conviction that help us meet on common ground.

Despite that we disagree, I admire your tenacity and conviction. :-)

[R3tr0]

I do not have a hard time imagining a father allowing his son to suffer the sins of the world and a most painful and gruesome death.



I just don%u2019t see how that equates to the freeing of our spirits, to forgiving of our sins and allowing the opportunity to share a closer relationship with the Lord and the hope and reality of going to heaven to be with Him at the end of our lives.



I do not see the cause and effect of it.



To me, it makes no sense.



Because the world is still filled with sin.



And Christ%u2019s death did nothing to end that.



And just believing in Christ %u2013 to me %u2013 is not good enough %u2013 not enough %u2013 in my mind %u2013 for someone%u2019s salvation.



I believe it is your ACTS %u2013 what you do in this life %u2013 with your life %u2013 that dictates salvation.



Not just %u201Cbelieving%u201D.



IF there is anything to take from the story of Christ %u2013 it is the way he ACTED and the way he lived his life.



People misunderstand that %u2013 and do not follow in those footsteps.



They just think that by saying %u201C I accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior%u201D that they are saved.



And I feel that is just horse-hockey.



But then again %u2013 the whole concept of %u201CBeing Saved%u201D is horse-hockey to me too.



People are so caught up with the %u201CNext Life%u201D %u2013 that they totally miss out on doing good in this one.

[genesis15-2009]

"OK, I''''''''ll give you that. But my point still stands of the tremendous influece of the Bible on all of society since it''''''''s creation. Especially after the invention of the printing press. The Book is unlike any other. History proves that because so many lives have been changed for the better. That is not an accident but a Divine intention."

Of course - it''''s the most widely read book on the face of the planet. It''''s an excellent read, and filled with wonderful poetry and vivid details. It tells that, despite all the ills that happen around you, God still loves you. Who wouldn''''t be changed after hearing and reading that?

This is also the reason why there are people that believe in other holy texts as well - something within the text calls to their soul, and they feel transformed by it. This is why I agree with the idea that it''''s not the faith one practices, but rather that the person HAS faith to begin with, that leads to their salvation.


Posted by flabear2

flabear2, I still believe what I believe but you have made a good case for yourself. Unlike the others.

[lib_crusher]

Dear Lord,

Please kill midland''s lord.

Thanks.
Amen.

[genesis15-2009]

Hypocrites.......

Dear lord save me from your followers,
Amen.

P.S. Can you please rapture them soon?


Posted by midland666

Admit it midland666, you''re life would be pretty boring without us Christians to mock. Aren''t you glad that we love you and would not do you any harm, unlike some extremists in certain faiths.

[midland666]

Hypocrites.......

Dear lord save me from your followers,
Amen.

P.S. Can you please rapture them soon?

[flabear2]

"OK, I''''ll give you that. But my point still stands of the tremendous influece of the Bible on all of society since it''''s creation. Especially after the invention of the printing press. The Book is unlike any other. History proves that because so many lives have been changed for the better. That is not an accident but a Divine intention."

Of course - it''s the most widely read book on the face of the planet. It''s an excellent read, and filled with wonderful poetry and vivid details. It tells that, despite all the ills that happen around you, God still loves you. Who wouldn''t be changed after hearing and reading that?

This is also the reason why there are people that believe in other holy texts as well - something within the text calls to their soul, and they feel transformed by it. This is why I agree with the idea that it''s not the faith one practices, but rather that the person HAS faith to begin with, that leads to their salvation.

[genesis15-2009]

genesis15-take care my friend. Gotta get off of here for awhile.

God bless.


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Posted by nopacifism2

God bless you and we will meet again.

[genesis15-2009]

"C. S. Lewis was a hardcore former atheist, and one read of the Bible changed all of that."

That''''s a bit of an over-generalization. He attended the Church of Ireland until the age of 15, when he became an atheist. He re-converted at age 33. His conversion was a thought-out process, and told in "Surprised By Joy". He, in fact, made his decision for re-conversion while on a trip to a zoo.


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Posted by flabear2

OK, I''ll give you that. But my point still stands of the tremendous influece of the Bible on all of society since it''s creation. Especially after the invention of the printing press. The Book is unlike any other. History proves that because so many lives have been changed for the better. That is not an accident but a Divine intention.

[flabear2]

"C. S. Lewis was a hardcore former atheist, and one read of the Bible changed all of that."

That''s a bit of an over-generalization. He attended the Church of Ireland until the age of 15, when he became an atheist. He re-converted at age 33. His conversion was a thought-out process, and told in "Surprised By Joy". He, in fact, made his decision for re-conversion while on a trip to a zoo.

[midland666]

nopacifism2..

youre true colors are showing young loving christian Hypocrit.

any mention of Palestine suffering and you go into attack mode, wheres the love now?

must have lost it in the book of daniel..

[genesis15-2009]

No mention from you about these "Palestinians" who teach their children to become suicide bombers for "allah" and brainwash them at the youngest age to hate the Jews, hate Israel, hate the USA, and kill all of the "infidels" (non believers of Islam).

This is what the young "Palestinian" children are taught. This is a KNOWN FACT. They are taught to become suicide bombers for "allah". No mention from midland666 about this however. He already knows this is occurring, that''''s why. He''''s just a Christian and Jew hater, which is why he doesn''''t bring it up.


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Posted by nopacifism2

Amen, Amen, and again Amen