Comments on: Vets Testify On Cold War Toxins

Chemicals Used Decades Ago May Have Sickened U.S. Military

[woodjd42]

Some of you idiots just don''''t get it. This is not NOT the REPUBLICAN-run government that is at fault by giving no assistance to our veterans. It''''s the DUMBOCRAPS, too.

I am not a Repub.

...instead of looking realistically at the government you want to politicize by making this stupidity one side only when it''''s all sides. You hate Bush so much you''''d rather act like SATHERING lunatics. Well, go ahead with your venom. It certainly looks good on people who should be locked up.


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Posted by CarlyLaine

I am a Vietnam Vet, I think bush/chaney are the worst excuse for humans there is. However I agree that the lack of assistance or caring is not a party issue. Both sides are to blame. I myself am so tired of people talking about supporting the troops but that is all they do. How many have done anything other than talk about supporting the troops or vets?

[carlylaine]

Some of you idiots just don''t get it. This is not NOT the REPUBLICAN-run government that is at fault by giving no assistance to our veterans. It''s the DUMBOCRAPS, too.

I am not a Repub.

...instead of looking realistically at the government you want to politicize by making this stupidity one side only when it''s all sides. You hate Bush so much you''d rather act like SATHERING lunatics. Well, go ahead with your venom. It certainly looks good on people who should be locked up.

[condumbism]

Posted by michael0004
Every day, more and more evidence is revealed that the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs is an enemy, not an advocate for veterans.

Vote for self-centered Repiglicants in the White House as GW Bush or Juan (Israel First) McCain and nothing will change. It is past due time for Americans to vote for democrats that support the troops in both combat, and after. It is so obvious that all Republicunts are bought and payed for by greed (Corporate America), nothing more.

[danstoned]

My Vietnam Civil War draftee Veteran brother is finally beginning to see that the Republicons that he has voted for since 1970 do not give a *** about US vets. I was so surprised and elated when he recently told me he was voting straight Democrat and Obama in November. He, as many Vietnam vets see Jewn McCain as a *** for his surrendering and collaberation with the North Vietnamese enemy.

[grammawhamma]

My husband thought he survived Vietnam only to find out 34 years later that he didn''t. Agent Orange killed him at age 54.

[darnedsocks]

WHY DON''T THEY TRY THESE "EXPERIMENTS" ON THE ENEMY, INSTEAD OF AMERICAN CITIZENS? WHO CARES IF OSAMA BIN LADEN GETS EXPOSED!

[nothappyatall]

And THIS is the same Govt the repubiCONS support and want in power!

[alphaa10-2009]

Project 112 and SHAD took place decades ago, but epidemiologists understand it takes that long for a pathogen to manifest in disease symptoms.

Sarin and VX certainly can be considered pathogens, making denials from the Pentagon highly suspect.

Moreover, the Pentagon''s lack of transparency over this issue and its overt hostility to medical claims suggests DOD, itself, understands its own culpability is not easily deniable.

The nation''s veterans will continue to demand fair treatment on this issue. Ultimately, a third-party study may be required to bring justice for veterans in the face of Pentagon efforts to escape responsibility.

Not surprisingly, Bush has brought dishonor for himself and his party in his callous disregard for service personnel and their families. Bush treated military families like welfare cases, and veterans, themselves, with grudging afterthought.

In 2004, for example, Bush made an effort to cut $1.5 billion from budgeted funds to military family housing and medical facilities.

In 2007, the Walter Reed hospital scandal demonstrated a dramatic decline in care from an underfunded and overloaded VA. Some VA staffers had caseloads of 125 patients each, and long bureaucratic delays were typical. Some outpatient facilities were found infested with roaches, mice, and/or black mold.

[michael0004]

Also, the VA is accepting comments on their proposal to codify the policy I describe in my previous comment. I encourage everyone, to file comments opposing the VA''s policy by:

1. Copy the following letters and numbers to your computers clipboard memory (highlight it and copy it)

VA-2008-VBA-0014

2. Go to this link: http://www.regulations.gov/search/index.jsp

The comment period ends on Monday, June 16th, so comments must be filed this weekend.

[michael0004]

Every day, more and more evidence is revealed that the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs is an enemy, not an advocate for veterans. Has the VA conducted any investigations or studies to determine whether Project Shad had any deliterious health affects on U.S. servicmen. I doubt it. But that is typical of the VA. They just announce conclusions that fit in to preconceived notions so as to save a few dollars or cover up politically sensitive information. Take for instance so-called blue water U.S. Navy Vietnam veterans who are afflicted with diseases associated with exposure to Agent Orange. For 11 years after the enactmen of the Agent Orange Act of 1991, the VA granted medical and other benefits to these blue water Navy Vietnam veterans. But in 2002, the VA all of a sudden said that their interpretation of the AO Act of 1991 meant that only those Vietnam veterans who set foot on land in Vietnam were covered by the law. Conduct of combat operations a few hundred feet off shore in Vietnam or being anchored in Vietnam harbors no longer was sufficient to qualify for these benefits. So the blue water Navy veterans are left to die of their conditions. That''s the 21st century VA. More information on this can be obtained at www.bluewaternavy.org.

[samrensho]

The US Guvment, since WWII has treated its soldiers as throw away items. If you get injured they don''t wanna hear about it.

[incog-nito]

Correction: This is about COLD WAR toxins. The Bush administration is of course NOT responsible for this.

[incog-nito]

Everything is George Bush fault - 9/11, tornadoes in the midwest, Katrina, etc. - its amazing how one man can cause soo much trouble !

Posted by jb01201a at 11:47 PM : Jun 12, 2008

You stupid or what? This is about COLD WAR toxins. The Bush administration is of course responsible for this. They''re just denying the help these veterans need. That, combined with opposing the G.I. bill, indefinite stop-loss policy, says a lot about what Bush and McCain think about military personnel.

[homespunlady]

The military has been a "captive" guinea pig population and I KNOW since I too have been part of it.

Environmental poisoning happened here in the states as well as places like Vietnam.
DUH - see SUPER-FUND SITES -many are STILL out there and many MORE should have been but WERE NOT listed).
Check out what got "dumped/sprayed" around places like nuclear sites -IF you can.

- then match those "sites" to illness clusters. (BOTH military AND CIVILIAN that have been in those areas)

-you MIGHT be surprised.

[homespunlady]

Everything is George Bush fault - 9/11, tornadoes in the midwest, Katrina, etc. - its amazing how one man can cause soo much trouble !
Posted by jb01201a at 11:47 PM : Jun 12, 2008

YEP!! I know you''re being facetious but just THINK...

This NATION IS getting HORRIFIC weather thousands of lightning strikes, hundreds of tornadoes per year, (1,500 this year so far), RECORD FLOODS, DEVASTATING Fires, HEAT WAVES, Drought AND HURRICANES etc. since that man TOOK POWER.

Maybe the EVANGELICALS MIGHT understand THE idea OF "GOD''S WRATH".

Isn''t it BEGINNING TO SOUND like EGYPT and the WARNINGS of MOSES???

Maybe the GREED and SELFISHNESS of the AMERICAN LEADERSHIP and CORPORATE PUPPET-MASTERS HAS triggered some sort of "karma" "wrath" or "natural consequences".

NEXT UP...much of the remaining crops destroyed by MASSIVE "locust cloud" or maybe frighteningly big Earthquake/volcano in the US???

Either way my BETS are on growing FOOD SHORTAGES as a result of all this before next year.

[jb01201a]

Everything is George Bush fault - 9/11, tornadoes in the midwest, Katrina, etc. - its amazing how one man can cause soo much trouble !

[mclark151]

My Husband was a part of SHAD. In March he was diagmosed with Lung Cancer. He Never Smoked. So the Doctor said he must of been exposed to something that caused cancer.

[dakotaclark]

Hmmm...

Once again, people within the Bush Administration strike a blow against veterans.

President G. W. Bush will go down in history as being the most veteran unfriendly president - ever - in the history of The U.S.

[impeach_w]

Sorry I posted the wrong link:

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/sites/lejeune/index.html

https://clnr.hqi.usmc.mil/clsurvey/

Camp Lejeune Water Study Call Center:
[phone]
e-mail [e-mail]

For more information on the
Camp Lejeune Water Study

Agency for Toxic Substance
and Disease Registry

[ubrew12]

Thanks to the Bush administration, they are now storing potent biowarfare agents in Hawaii, right next to a million people on the island of Oahu. Ebola virus, smallpox, etc, its all being stored near Pearl Harbor.

I was in Hawaii last year, and was amazed to listen to state-sponsored advertizements telling people what to do in case of a bird flu epidemic: stay in your house, dont go outside, dont go to work, dont go visit the neighbors, etc. But I knew: this had NOTHING to do with bird flu. THIS was about potential leakage of the horrific bioagents being stored there.