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[flabear2]

then i guess you really are offended at the word of God according to the scriptures if you feel this way.

-- You are free to believe whatever you wish.

the scriptures are not our words it''''s God''''s word. every time we quote a scripture from God''''s word you seem to imply that that is something we said.

-- You are quoting me a passage from a book. The book is not God. We will just have to agree to disagree again.

you don''''t believe in the word of God you just believe in a God. then you have general beliefs about that, but refuse to believe every word in the bible.

-- Pretty much, yeah. Written word shall always be corrupted.

You don''''t even believe in sin even though God is against it.

-- Your idea of God is against sin. My idea of God says that sin is a construct made to perpetuate the shame that Man feels he must carry, when he can lay it down a little bit of effort.

[flabear2]

Agreed. And because we are free to believe in whatever we want, you have utilized your free will and choice to reject Christ and His perfect plan of salvation, something "Religion" can never offer you.

-- We agree here. Hence why I follow my own path in honoring Christ''s teachings.

Religion can''''t give you eternal life, but Christ however can.

-- I do not long for eternal life. I simply wish to enjoy this one with all the opportunities it can offer.

Why you turn this down is baffling to me, but it''''s your choice. I get the feeling it''''s because you don''''t want Christ to be the authority in your life. His truth sets you free, from religion, from doubt, and from this world which is currently under the control of satan.

-- My idea of God is different than your own. My idea of God decrees that I search out the truth for myself, rather than fall lockstep behind others and what they think Truth should mean to me. Trust me here: I have no doubt about what I converse with God about, or what God wants from me. The Divine is the authority in my life, so maybe that''s not so different.

[endtimes72]

This is something "Religion" can never offer.

Posted by notaliberal5

true.

[endtimes72]

I do acknowledge it, but it is not my truth. That is your truth, and you are entitled to it.

However, I am offended when people make God out to be no better more than a spoiled child.

Posted by flabear2

then i guess you really are offended at the word of God according to the scriptures if you feel this way. the scriptures are not our words it''s God''s word. every time we quote a scripture from God''s word you seem to imply that that is something we said. you don''t believe in the word of God you just believe in a God. then you have general beliefs about that, but refuse to believe every word in the bible. You don''t even believe in sin even though God is against it.

[flabear2]

You''''re the one who''''s making up your own truth as you go along in life, not me.

-- Possibly. But that''s no different than anyone else.

I give all the glory to the Lord Jesus Christ, the one true Lord of Lords and King of Kings. He deserves all the glory, not me, or anyone else.

-- Very happy for you.

[flabear2]

"-Scripture is the Word of God, not a beautiful collection of poetry"

Then we will have to agree to disagree.

[flabear2]

"You''''re being shown the truth but you refuse to acknowledge it."

I do acknowledge it, but it is not my truth. That is your truth, and you are entitled to it.

[flabear2]

Offended by Scripture? Nonsense. I think Scripture is a beautiful collection of poetry.

However, I am offended when people make God out to be no better more than a spoiled child.

[flabear2]

"So you''''re offended by the Scriptures. This is common among non-believers. The Scriptures are meant so that you can know the Truth, but you''''re offended that God has laid out the game plan for you in advance.

So in an essence, you''''re against God, and believe that human beings have the final answers, and not God.

That''''s all it''''s about with you."

That''s a pretty big leap there. Regardless, you are free to believe whatever you wish - just as I am.

[endtimes72]

People make their own choice to be blinded. The "god of this age" as the book of Corinthians points out is not God, it is satan.

Satan blinds people from the Truth about Christ because of their own choice and rejection of Christ.

Posted by notaliberal5

and this is why God get blamed for things that Satan does. they don''t know that Satan is the ruler here not God. God intervenes and has also given us the tool to handle the ruler of this earth. so many will be fooled when the anti-Christ possessed by Satan make himself known, but claiming to be the true Messiah.

[endtimes72]

I''''''''m missing the benevolent part of that passage.

Posted by flabear2

the benevolent part of the message is that He is and has warned us. you either choose to belive the warning or not. you can heed the warning or not. that is up to you, but you can''t blame God as if something was kept from non believers because they didn''t believe and don''t want to know from truth.

[endtimes72]

Can I simply say this: This is one of the most classical and sickening displays of smugness I have ever read. Thank you for playing into every holier-than-thou and self-righteous stereotype that people have of modren-day American Christians.

As far as that Corinthians quote - you want people to believe that your idea of God is benevolent and merciful, yet purposely condemns others by keeping the "Truth" hidden from them that could mean their salvation from said condemnation? I''''m missing the benevolent part of that passage.

Posted by flabear2

that''s nothing to be offended over. it''s scripture. but you just said that you don''t want to know or don''t care about prophecy. prophecies are warnings. you don''t believe in them, but God tells that if you don''t want to know then yes he is going let Satan to continue to blind you from the truth. why would you even care if he blinds you from the truth if you don''t want to know it.

[endtimes72]

Of course I can see what''''s happening - one would have to be blind. I will never, however, claim that I know the reasons behind what is happening. Implication that one is somehow privy to secret knowledge, well that I leave up to other people.

Posted by flabear2

but see that''s why the prophecies are there. they are warning for things to come if the world doesn''t change it''s ways. there''s nothing secretive about it. God has put people on this earth to interpret his prophecies. then again it''s like the post by notaliberal5 which simply says that if you don''t want to know then you will continue to blinded by Satan. this is what he wants. He doesn''t want you to know the truth.

[flabear2]

It''''s amazing to us because we know the Truth, and He lives within us a Christians as we are God''''s Children.

The Bible explains why these people are blinded:

2 Corinthians 4:4:
4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.



Can I simply say this: This is one of the most classical and sickening displays of smugness I have ever read. Thank you for playing into every holier-than-thou and self-righteous stereotype that people have of modren-day American Christians.

As far as that Corinthians quote - you want people to believe that your idea of God is benevolent and merciful, yet purposely condemns others by keeping the "Truth" hidden from them that could mean their salvation from said condemnation? I''m missing the benevolent part of that passage.

[flabear2]

notaliberal5 -

I never once said that I denied this or that prophesy. I simply don''t concern myself with them.

[flabear2]

endtimes72 -

I''ve read the book - multiple versions of it. Five, to be exact.

I believe in guilt and shame, not "sin".

Again, I care nothing for prophesy. Only a prophet can interpret the message they receive, and I am not one of them. Therefore, I do not concern myself with such things. It can only be determined to be a fulfilled prophesy when it has already happened.

Of course I can see what''s happening - one would have to be blind. I will never, however, claim that I know the reasons behind what is happening. Implication that one is somehow privy to secret knowledge, well that I leave up to other people.

[endtimes72]

2 Corinthians 4:4:
4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Posted by notaliberal5

so true and it hurts the heart to see this happening.

[endtimes72]

Posted by notaliberal5


it just amazes me that millions of people can''t see it coming.

[endtimes72]

flabear2

i take it you like to read right? if suggest a book to you would you read it? not that i''m trying to convert you or anything, but it would be just some more reading material for you.

[endtimes72]

Posted by flabear2

no way you fully believe in God if you don''t believe the prophecies that HE spoke through His prophets and Jesus Himself. Does sin even exist in what you believe in? Do you not know that the nations are being punished we speak. A believer would know that, but one who doesn''t or just simply does not believe in prophecy will things happening as nothing that hasn''t happen before.

okay let''s step back a moment. let''s take God out the situation and let''s just use our so called intelligent so called thinking. look at the world today can you not see how everything is escalating worldwide. natural disasters are becoming more frequent and more widespread, violence worldwide is escalating, more nations are now facing famine, more diseases popping up that we have no cure for, how close we are to world war III because of countries hate for Israel. doesn''t it just feel like something is about to happen. Jesus referred to this period that were going through now as the "birth pains" and you what that is analogy of. now do you know that the book of Revelations speaks of all of this that would be occuring in the last days before the return of Christ. It also speaks of a one world government which will try to implement a one world religious system.