Comments on: Court: Sect Kids Must Be Returned Home

Texas Supreme Court Upholds Lower Court Ruling, Says Welfare Officials Overstepped Their Authority

[wlmrtpatriot]

Apparently Tx. is it''s own gov''t. One would think that there were enough undocumented people there already. Now they want us to believe these people were totally illiterate disgusting and backward. They aren''t. I don''t believe any of the lies anymore and will not feel comfortable until they stop persecuting these people. My god, Nancy Grace has even had a chance to pound her desk and sneer on this one.

[sunny63-2009]

Boy my state has hit rock bottom . When they alow dirty old men and crazy women have control over the kids that can not defind their selves !!! I hope the court pay for every time thoes kids are hurt!!!

[merlgrey]

never said that people who work for public agencies get paid high salaries. but certainly comfortable enough... and you know the bennies and vacation and lack of accountability cant be beat yes?

i stand by what i say. believe me, lots will back me up...

guess what, we cant all be helped and we shouldnt be. sometimes people are born into loser situations and that is life. they survive or they dont. theres plenty of laws out there. if a crime is commited, police can file charges.

right now with the economy in the cr@pper, some agencies i deal with are actually having (forbid) cutbacks!! all of a sudden people in the public sector are totally helpfull and have lost thier egos and can answer thier phones!! go figure...

btw- please explain and sugarcoat this texas fiasco. also please do society a favor and leave private citizens alone and get a real job.

[straightmate]

Outrageous isn''t it. No matter what view you take. Texas is a legal mess.

[wogerwabbit]

the rule of law... innocent until proven guilty... get used to it.

[cdaus]

These poor children...traumatized beyond repair.

[lemonskink]

This is but one case of a government rogue agency overstepping the "legal" boundaries. That''s the key word folks...legal. The people that agree with this agency because of the FDLS way of life empower and embolden any government agency to run wild without checks or balances. That''s the important fact of the matter. Look how the right wing nuts totally fell for the Patriot''s Act, for spying on US citizens, and the rest of the garbage heaped on them from the Bush regime. Folks, wake up. We control the government, not the government controlling us. We''ve allowed it to go on for so long, and they know it''s as easy as making it go from orange to red with a color code to keep you in line. Shameful.

[amaski-2009]

to Merlgrey.... I resent the fact that us "government" workers are lazy and whatever other jargon you used... just because you work for the government doesn''t mean it''s a high paying job... if I wanted to make more money, I certainly wouldn''t be working in CPS! And no, we don''t take pleasure of removing children from the parents... that is the last thing we want to do, but "we" have policies, procedures and protocols that need to be followed. When we seem, to what you call abuse power, it is our obligation to confront families regarding concerns and need change and implement standards our job is to uphold... do you think we enjoy knocking on people''s doors following abuse allegations? There are certainly times where CPS put their lives at risk.

[excelsior9]

******* Texas cops jumped the gun like wannabe Texas Rangers and botched it up. Off of a phone call they couldnt confirm was real from some idiot in Colorado. They knew they didnt have enough but took a shot in the dark and lost. There is no doubt these kids are in danger of these religious psychos, but they still have cellphones and lawyers. Unfortunately these kids arent allowed to use a phone to call police if abused. I say WACO their ***** as their nutcase leaders have suggested police do.

[dronemonk]

Texas CPS kidnapped and abused those children. If you ask them why they did it, they''ll tell you, with a straight face and zero sense of irony, that it was to save the children from being abused.

Paging George Orwell...

[veteran72]

Got bybull???....check....Got young kids to Molest???....check......OK, you''re good to go.
Pick up your Court Order to Legally Pedophile on your way out.
And, thanks again for choosing Tex-***!!!

[merlgrey]

"CPS is already understaffed and underpaid. They likely put their own lives, and obligations to their own families, on hold in order to do the best job they could under the circumstances."Posted by someone at 11:28 PM : May 29, 2008

not a personal dig to anyone.... but it seems there are a lot of belivers that the state is smarter and better and has more ethics than the individual...

has no-one ever had to deal with a state, city, or god help... federal employee that has way too big an ego, is lazy, has been given a smidgen of authority that is totally abused, and has essentially no accountability. with cps its times 2. cps is notorious for ineptness and totally *** up families for no good reason. there is a reason people work for the government paycheck... they are lazy and cant get jobs in the private world cause they cant hack it. putting them on pedestals is not helpful. they are just people too, people that collect a government paycheck cause they cant work like the rest of us, only a step up from being on welfare.

no offense to good hardworking honest people that work in the public sector... i do know some, and they agree this.

[heypolkafan]

can any, or has anyone been asked to prove that these children were theirs? To whom will they be returned?

[hotwitch]

State of Texas~~not congruent with~~US Constitution

[heypolkafan]

can any, or has anyone been asked to prove that these children were theirs?

[maedean]

In the name of religion give the children back to there pedophile familes...As long as you do it in the name of god it is ok to rape kids and allow stupid women to watch and help..See the laws only apply to certain people in the US. So rape your kids,incest is more than ok ,throw your boys out on the street to live , marry as many women as you want but do it in a church and in the name of religion and it will all be ok.....

[amaski-2009]

Also, I am quite certain Texas CPS would rather have not taken the measures they did. That number of children removed is outrageous and a CPS nightmare. CPS is already understaffed and underpaid. They likely put their own lives, and obligations to their own families, on hold in order to do the best job they could under the circumstances.

[amaski-2009]

To follow up....just because any physical abuse (or any other allegation) was not part of the original phone call doesn''t mean CPS can ignore that information. There is likely much more information of concern that CPS hasn''t had the ability to gather.
If the children are to return home, CPS needs to obtain the needed DNA testing, in order to accurately reunify the children to their correct mother''s/ father''s. Otherwise, it is like having your own child being released to a stranger, based on the fact that the mother''s have not been open and honest with CPS about names, ages, etc. This deceitful behavior is considered high risk for further abuse to these children. The families appear to be a high flight risk and CPS would have no way to monitor the case. They are currently facing a difficult task in monitoring these children''s welfare, as their community is closed and doesn''t allow "outsiders", to whom they refer to as being evil and bad influences. CPS''s job is for the protection of children. If removal is needed, that is their role. Then efforts are put in place to work with the parents and children towards reunification. Nothing is going to change if these children return now.

[amaski-2009]

I personally am distraught about these children returning home. My opinion is not based on their religion or faith, but of the parent%u2019s lack of judgment as to how to protect their children and/ or ability to exhibit discipline or structure in a way that is not demeaning to these children. As a CPS worker in another state, I commend Texas CPS for taking the action they did. Some may feel taking all the children was extreme, but when you have a community where the children are raised by the community; it is difficult for a child to be removed from one home especially when you have an "unknown maltreater". They took the action they did as it would be difficult to conduct an investigation of such a large magnitude, in a timely fashion, therefore leaving vulnerable children exposed to further abuse. If we had an allegation of a similar nature and 10 children were in the home, there could be a possibility that all the children could be removed based on risk and need to gather more information. Despite the phone call that initiated CPS involvement was not accurate, CPS has the obligation to look into allegations of abuse/ neglect that a "reasonable person" would find credible. CPS started their investigation and not only did they find underage girls married and pregnant (even though that number has significantly been lowered), but more information of physical abuse allegations and the mother''s unable or unwilling to protect their children.

[gaye5]

bozworth4, you are not dumb, what you said was very eloquent and so true. As we know that pedophiles will continue to offend, surely one of the punishments could be that they have lost the right to marry anyone who has children/grandchildren, somehow we have to protect these little mites.. .

messiahx4eve I gather that some of the ex cult members have said that when they were under age that they were going to be forced to be married to much older men.

fenner, I have been told that yes many judges are pedophiles or have been compromised, one high up policeman had to get out or be killed while trying to expose these things...