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by bgwinnett May 29, 2008 11:13 PM EDT
The secret one where we are not privy to secrets our nations enemies and competitors would love to have.

Posted by bhoogren at 08:05 PM : May 29, 2008

On this level, I''m sure that we are more in ad hoc with our "Competitors" than in confrontation, but thats my more conspiracy tendencies taking over.
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by Latrocinor May 29, 2008 11:05 PM EDT
Me too, hence I get called a lib and a rightwinger from time to time as well.

Posted by bgwinnett
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I''ve decided there are several layers to the government.

The one we see - orchestrated to foster the best sense of happiness under the circumstances.

The more boring one of everyday affairs regulated by laws, codes, regulations, SOP''s etc.

The secret one where we are not privy to secrets our nations enemies and competitors would love to have.
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by bgwinnett May 29, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
I am a moderate. So you moveon.org-o-crats call me a neocon and the righty tighties call me a lib.

Posted by bhoogren at 07:53 PM : May 29, 2008

Me too, hence I get called a lib and a rightwinger from time to time as well.

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by bgwinnett May 29, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
Did he start a war for oil?

Posted by liberalme

Hard to say really, there are a couple of more important factors in my view; for a start the bankers behind the Fed who have profited from this war, by lending out the money to the government to pay for it whilst charging a hefty sum of interest in the process.
Then there is the balance of power in the Middle East-- the logic being if you take out one of the biggest threats to Israel, you will strengthen the position of the Jews, and weaken the others. Of course this has not gone entirely to plan, by strengthening Iran -- unless this was the idea, so that the perception is that we have no choice but to bomb that Country.
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by Latrocinor May 29, 2008 10:53 PM EDT
Posted by bhoogren at 07:32 PM : May 29, 2008

And what title are you competing for then? CBS news'''''''' moderator?

Posted by bgwinnett
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I am a moderate. So you moveon.org-o-crats call me a neocon and the righty tighties call me a lib.
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by liberalme May 29, 2008 10:53 PM EDT
No one did. This is a great lie. This same lie was told when President Clinton ordered military action. In addition President Clinton was accused of starting military action to distract attention from the Lewinsky affair.

I was more awake than you seem to be.
Posted by bhoogren

Clinton didn''t create the state this country and Iraq are in now--Bush did---Bush started a war for oil and a pipeline--that''s it!! Cheneys part was to increase the profits for Haliburton.

70% of the country knows this, with the exception of lintball and hannity--and of course Faux news is busy trying to make Dunkin Donuts look complicit with terrorists! hahaha what a bunch of fools!
Bin Laden? "Oh I don''t know where he is, don''t think much about him"!
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by Latrocinor May 29, 2008 10:51 PM EDT
Posted by bhoogren at 07:32 PM : May 29, 2008

And what title are you competing for then? CBS news'''' moderator?

Posted by bgwinnett
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Why do you bring up the subject of a title? How strange.
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by Latrocinor May 29, 2008 10:46 PM EDT
Did he start a war for oil?

Posted by liberalme
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No one did. This is a great lie. This same lie was told when President Clinton ordered military action. In addition President Clinton was accused of starting military action to distract attention from the Lewinsky affair.

I was more awake than you seem to be.
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by bgwinnett May 29, 2008 10:45 PM EDT
Posted by bhoogren at 07:32 PM : May 29, 2008

And what title are you competing for then? CBS news'' moderator?
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by liberalme May 29, 2008 10:43 PM EDT
I do NOT know how it can be put any better!

Posted by MCVet at 07:40 PM : May 29, 2008

If they weren''t there and took no interest in Vietnam, they will never understand--don''t waste your breath mcvet!
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