Comments on: Rice Defends Post-9/11 Interrogation Rules

Secretary Of State Says Tough Methods Of Questioning For Terror Suspects Was Necessary

[cockapoo1]

I''m proud of that.

[cockapoo1]

I never murdered nobody, ya know.

[veteran72]

It must be so frustrating for some to realize that there is no court in the world with jurisdiction to try Bush, Cheney, etc. EVEN WHEN they are no longer heads of state. And even more so to realize that the next president (probably a Dem.) will pardon them all retroactively to 2001 or thereabouts.


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Posted by ajayvee at 06:22 PM : May 23, 2008
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If the US President and Congress agreed to call for an International War Crimes Tribunal, they could indeed try ALL the Neocons responsible for the last 8 years of War Crimes and Mass Murder for Profit. Getting past foreign extradition laws might be more difficult, but they could be found guilty in absentia, leaving them as Pariahs and uncaptured World Felons, forever watching over their shoulders, marked as enemies of all decent people everywhere, doomed to die in disgrace.

[bgwinnett]

There''''s a lot more to all this than anyone knows, (except for the Traitors inside the Bush/Cheney Crime Cartel of course......)

Posted by veteran72 at 06:20 PM : May 23, 2008

And the secret societies, the true puppet masters in all of this.

[ajayvee]

It must be so frustrating for some to realize that there is no court in the world with jurisdiction to try Bush, Cheney, etc. EVEN WHEN they are no longer heads of state. And even more so to realize that the next president (probably a Dem.) will pardon them all retroactively to 2001 or thereabouts.

[veteran72]

the fact that anthrax was sent to democrats, but NOT republicans. Posted byjn122736

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And weeks later the Patriot act was passed without even being read. Co-incidence?


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Posted by bgwinnett at 06:13 PM : May 23, 2008
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It was like watching a group of Stepford Representatives, swallowing this entire lie, and then having no questions about how they could have authored in 10 minutes, an LA Phone Book sized Manifesto that basically ended the Constitution and Rule of Law as we knew it. There''s a lot more to all this than anyone knows, (except for the Traitors inside the Bush/Cheney Crime Cartel of course......)

[bgwinnett]

veteran72-- the revealing of the 9/11 truth will cause a massive change of perception among the people, of the system, I think it could come about pretty soon. The problem is that the elite will release a human form of bird as contingency or even airborne aids.

[bgwinnett]

the fact that anthrax was sent to democrats, but NOT republicans. Posted byjn122736

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And weeks later the Patriot act was passed without even being read. Co-incidence?

[veteran72]

After 8 years of the Bush administrations lies and corruption MOST Americans find it easy to believe they are capable of any atrocity.



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Posted by jn122736 at 06:05 PM : May 23, 2008
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind they were DIRECTLY involved.

[veteran72]

"Despite years of relentless media promotion, whitewash and 9/11 Commission propaganda, the official 9/11 story still can''t even muster 50% popular support. Since this myth has been the administration''s primary source of political and war-making power, this level of distrust has revolutionary implications for everyone working for peace, justice and civil liberties.
If we ever hope to reclaim this country, end aggression and restore international respect, we all must finally scrutinize that day when things started to go so terribly wrong.

SCOPE: The poll covered five related areas: 1) Iraq - do Americans think the Bush administration exploited 9/11 to attack Iraq? (44% do, 44% don''t); 2) Cover up - did the government and its 9/11 Commission conceal or refuse to investigate evidence that contradicts their official story? (only 48% said no); 3) The collapse of WTC 7, which was not even mentioned by the 9/11 Commission and has seldom been reported in the media---were respondents aware of this collapse and, if so, did they think it should be investigated (only 52% knew about it, but over 70% of this group believe it should have been investigated); 4) new investigation of official complicity - do respondents think we need one? (only 48% said no); and 5) mass media - how do people rate its performance, including its coverage of alternative 9/11 theories, unanswered questions and inquiry issues? (43% rate it positively, 55% negatively).

[jn122736]

veteran72,
Many people still feel that there are a lot of unanswered questions concerning 911.

For instance:
The invasion of Iraq was planned long before 911.

NOTHING was done, or even attempted, to stop the second and third planes from striking the towers and the pentagon, even though the first tower had already been hit and those planes were known to be off their flight plans.

The Bush administration immediately blamed Bin Laden for 911 and declared that we would bring him to justice, then not only did Bush abandoned the search for Bin Laden to invade Iraq, he flatly stated that Bin Laden was not important and he didn%u2019t worry/think about him.

Bin Laden, and 911, were evidently only used as an excuse to do what had been planned in the first place.

In ordertt to carry out their plans, they also needed control of both the house and senate and (coincidently?), one democratic senator and one Soon-to-be democratic senator were killed in mysterious plane crashes, not to mention the fact that anthrax was sent to democrats, but NOT republicans.

After 8 years of the Bush administrations lies and corruption MOST Americans find it easy to believe they are capable of any atrocity.

[lfitts1]

The point is--these techniques violated US and international law and the Geneva conventions--therefore Bush and Cheney should be tried for war crimes--we tried japanese commanders for exactly this after WW2--SIMPLE

[azmka]

You could get anyone to "admit" anything under torture. Even the Vietnam P.O.W.s came to realize that they could and would hold out as long as possible but eventually each bore no animosity towards those that broke under the pain.

[macusweil]

Simple litmus test for interrogation rules: Would you approve them for use on your son or daughter if they were held by the enemy? Would you subject yourself to them??

[cockapoo1]

You don''t have to rationalize not using torture. Don''t condescend.

[veteran72]

According to Janice Matthews, executive director of 911truth.org, "To those who have followed the mounting evidence for US government involvement in 9/11, these results are both heartening and frankly quite amazing, given the mainstream media''s ongoing refusal to cover the most critical questions of that day.
Our August 2004 Zogby poll of New Yorkers showed NEARLY HALF believe certain US officials ''consciously'' allowed the attacks to happen and 66% want a fresh investigation, but these were people closest to the tragedy and most familiar with facts refuting the official account. This revelation that so many millions nationwide now also recognize a 9/11 cover up and the need for a new inquiry should be a wake up call for all 2008 political candidates hoping to turn this country around. We think it also indicates Americans are awakening to the larger pattern of deceit that led us into Constitutional twilight and endless war, and that our independent media may have finally come of age."

"Just a tiny minority".....notsmart certainly isn''t....LMMFAO.......what a Rube.....

[cockapoo1]

The american military doesn''t work for corporations.

[cockapoo1]

Torturing? Murdering? And lieing to the american people.

[cockapoo1]

How long have we been hearing rumors of the need for a global court? And why would that be? It wouldn''t be because our own representatives were torturing people for money, now was it?

[cockapoo1]

Worse than that, imagine if that was the onus for all overseas policies. Including corporate.