Comments on: Polygamy Custody Hearings Reveal Errors

Officials: Number Of Underage Mothers Was Overreported, Hurting Widespread Abuse Claims

[emelder]

dragonwagon5: Well ... with the Supreme Court heavy with Bush appointees, what have you got to lose if they review the actions of Texas authorities. I''m just saying the Texas officials violated the due process clause of the U.S. Constitution ... that one protects us all. Let all ask our U.S. Senators to request a review by the Court.

[scttbrunson]

The TX agency responsible for this outrageous injustice is out of control. Where is the ACLU?

[emelder]

cpaide: I just emailed both of my U.S. Senators (PA) ... asking them to request that the U.S. Supreme Court review the actions of Texas authorities. Will any other bloggers join me in this effort? I''m told that if a U.S. Senator gets just 12-15 emails or letters on a topic, they consider it a hot topic ... and they assign a staff member to the issue. Let''s raise a ruckus over the disregard of basic due process of law by Texas authorities.

[tbweb]

The thing I don''t like about groups that form like this is that they think they are better than everyone else! They want American benefits, free Public Welfare, WIC, Food Stamps, Medical and a free ride since most of them really don''t work, assimilate or participate within society or allow their families to mingle with normal American families and also want to live free and safe within American borders without public or military service. They just want to make babies, multiply, pray to their God and be left alone, well so do many others but their lifestyle is supported by Tax Payers and like many others living on the public payroll its not a big deal when there are only a few, but in larger numbers its too expensive and not realistic. I''m not picking on these Americans and if people are honest in assessing their lifestyle it will become obvious they are actually taking advantage and picking on the rest of Americans!

[emelder]

This isn''t about polygamy ... it''s about abuse and disregard of due process under law, as guaranteed ALL Americans under the constitution.

[cbutler69]

Polygomy was outlawed by the Mormon church in the late 1800''s, so what has changed? IT IS STILL OUTLAWED. Its like the illegals- illegal is illegal. The mormon men have so many wives and children they cant support them in Utah and thus they draw welfare- whats wrong with this picture.? Churches are suppose to be NON PROFIT so where do these churches come up with millions of dollars as they reported on the news for this sect. The Texas authorities as far as I am concerned were right in taking these children away from this place, now maybe they can learn to be useful instead of sheep and falling the others. If these factions have all this money there is no reason they draw welfare off the government. All these churches need to be checked out and maybe changes made. They can have their religion, but religion doesnt includes children being married off to 50-60 year old men and having their childhood stolen from them.

[element51]

DragonWagon, Floyd, Nancy...Might as well just give it up. I knew from the beginning that these cult members would gain the sympathy of the public. They are experts at making themselves look pathetic. Give them back their kids and let them go back to the dam ranch and continue to practice their "religion", make sure they get their welfare checks on time and that the bed in the "temple" has clean sheets. Since the things they do are done in the name of religion, they can pretty much do as they please and the rest of us should just look the other way. Maybe some things are best just left alone. Sad but that''s the way it is.

[girl52]

Cpaide, how many wives do you have? You must be one of them! No child or woman should go through any of this! God did not put Adam on this earth with 10 other wives! Adam had one wife and that''s how it is to be! And then to make a young lady have relations with and older man. That''s gross! Like letting your grandpa fill you up! Let the kids be kids, and respect the women so they will respect themselves. The man is to provide for is family not knock up so many women he can''t afford anything, and the women and child live off the government. How fair is that to the tax payers!?

[emelder]

Cpaide: I agree ... wholeheartedly. There needs to be accountability for the incredible abuse of human rights and the lack of due process. This is America ... and this kind of stuff shouldn''t be happening.

[emelder]

This will one day be known as one of the darkest hours in America''s judicial history. This entire episode is filled with disregard for human rights and due process. And the behavior of the judges and attorneys involved has been nothing short of shameful! When will the U.S. Supreme Court step in to ensure fairness and due process??? Can someone get them a test case ... or ask for their guidance in this matter?

[jo1370]

SAN ANGELO, Texas %u2014 A lawyer for a 14-year-old girl that is on a list of so-called "disputed minors" said this morning she is not pregnant as Texas child welfare authorities have alleged.
"My client does not have children. (She) is not pregnant. She''s the youngest on the list of disputed minors," said Andrea Slone This is the 14 yr old that CPS said was pregnant....in the three days that these hearings have started...they have found 9 girls over 18...20 still undecided being checked....and they are lying about them being pregnant at all....says alot for the CPS system...

[ajaxrose1]

It''s not right for the state to conduct a witch hunt, but it happens all the time. Most of the time there is NO evidence. It happens to hundreds of families everyday in every state under the pretense of "protecting" children. Sometimes that''s even the case, but not this time around. I think they were wrong to separate those kids from their mothers and the damage that will result from it will take years to undo, if it can be undone at all. I don''t agree with their religion or their way of life, but I think persecution is wrong all the way around and that''s all this is. So called "social workers" (in EVERY state) excel at it, and they don''t even need a reason or any REAL evidence. Just like the days of the inquisitions and witch hunts.

[cpaide]

Three more charges:

1) Malicious Prosecution (social workers, county & state attorney and judge)
2) False Imprisonment (law enforcement)
3) Civil Rights Violations (all of the above)

Get them (the mormans) lawyers; sue them (texas attorneys, social workers, law enforcement & the judge); jail them (attorneys, law enforcement, social workers & the judge).

Regards,

[papabc]

Three charges:

1) Child abuse (only 23 underaged mothers...)
2) Welfare Fraud
3) Tax Fraud

Get them; convict them; jail them.

Regards, Posted by Nancy_Naive
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In the name of Religious persecution you would do this? What about their Freedom Of Religion that they have be doing for 100 years?

[cpaide]

Three charges:
1) Child abuse
2) Welfare Fraud
3) Tax Fraud
Get them; convict them; jail them.
Regards,
Posted by Nancy_Naive

sorry, dear, you can''t do that to illegal mexicans here in this country.

oh, were you talking about the mormans? then go right ahead.

[papabc]

The state of Texas Flucked Up.

[markcfl1]

dragonwagon5

You''re right. Key words in your comment are "had" and "thought" not "are" and "know"

[lochlan-2009]

"I say the state of Texas should return these children to their mothers who were enabling these men to pratice poligamy, satutory rape and pedophilia."

And the ones that weren''t involved?

[lochlan-2009]

At any rate, the state of Texas had no right to protect children they thought were in danger and no right to attempt to enforce the laws that were broken.


Posted by dragonwagon5

Well, maybe if you through your little hissy fit in the court room, you can get your way. You can try.

[markcfl1]

Whatever

Maybe you might like to read this one if your stomach can bear it. Here''s what''s happening in Texas while CPS is busy with the FLDS.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5793707.html