Comments on: 2008's Tornado Toll Deadliest In A Decade

So Far This Year, About 100 People Have Been Killed By Twisters In The U.S.

[irliberal]

Tornados are the result of COOLING, not warming, air. Anyone who says that they are the result of so-called "global warming" either doesn''''t know what they are talking about or they have their own agenda.

Posted by RunNM at 08:14 PM

Are you massively ignorant or just doing a little agenda of your own?

Tornadoes form from temperature differentials. It takes both warm and cold air to form a tornado. The extra energy in the atmosphere in the form of heat creates a higher potential for these temperature differentials. I know YOU don''t care about facts, but someone else might. You can go cry now. Dismissed.

[nonayabiness]

Global Warming = We are just fending off the next ice age.

[noloyalisti]

Global warming does not necessarily mean it is warmer right away. What is has been doing is disrupting the equilibrium of temperatures so that weather and storms become more severe. We have only seen the initial effects and these will likely be accelerating as we continue to drive our SUVs to the mall. Pray for $10/gallon gas.

[CoSyBob]

There has been no warming in a decade . This last year has been as cold as the early 1900s . No uniform change to the spectrum of the atmosphere can change the mean temperature of the globe which is determined according to the Stefan-Boltzmann law by the sun and our distance from it . The intensity of storms is determined by differences in temperatures , not temperature per se .

[CoSyBob]

There has been no warming in a decade . This last year has been as cold as the early 1900s . No uniform change to the spectrum of the atmosphere can change the mean temperature of the globe which is determined according to the Stefan-Boltzmann law by the sun and our distance from it . The intensity of storms is determined by differences in temperatures , not temperature per se .

[stn_sage]

Fear not folks,as history has shown,the Earth sheds its inhabitants like a dogs shaking water away,...
Posted by beehive21 at 10:12 PM : May 12, 2008
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My response: I like your calm, philosophical take on the matter, beehive21! You''re NOT trying to misinform anyone about what''s going on or stupid enough to try to deny it! That''s cool! We have whatever time we have left, right?! :)

[stn_sage]

All of the "observed science" shows that NOTHING is happening out of the ordinary, and manmade greenhouse gas emissions are a negligable part of it. It is only the inaccurate and consistentlty WRONG climate models that predict all of this catastrophe.
Posted by s1ckd09 at 07:13 PM : May 12, 2008
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My response: Oh, really?!

And the melting of the icecaps is NOT out of the ordinary?
And the huge hole over Australia due to ozone depletion with the resultant increase in radiation and increase in cancer rates there, is NOT out of the ordinary?!
And the el Nino & el Nina which is causing alternating flooding & drought, is NOT out of the ordinary?!
And the fact the avg temp is increasing a degree and a half per yr which will result in 5 years or so of putting us at an avg temp where an ice age can make a reoccurance, but that''s NOT out of the ordinary?!

Tell me---do you have any idea what ORDINARY means, mister?! Do you work for the Bush admin tearing up science reports and rewriting them? You obviously don''t know much about science!

Also, models are just that---models! They''re refined over time, very few models are accurate approaching above 90%. You expect too much and when you don''t get it, you declare all science to be deficient, useless, and therefore irrelevant! You''re WRONG!

And if the public continues to listen to people LIKE YOU, this planet IS doomed!

[beehive21-2009]

Fear not folks,as history has shown,the Earth sheds its inhabitants like a dogs shaking water away,you may be sure of one thing,like the dinosaurs,man is Doomed like other living things,it''s evolution,remember.Hang on, fasten your seat belts and enjoy the ride.

[jwrhea]

Knock off the Global Warming Cr@p. The earth has expierianced global warming many times in the past. If the experts are right on global warming, then they need to show us the freeways, factories and power plants that the cavemen and or dinosaurs used to cause the previous global warming events.

[runnm]

Tornados are the result of COOLING, not warming, air. Anyone who says that they are the result of so-called "global warming" either doesn''t know what they are talking about or they have their own agenda.

[jokevote]

22 people 1 is sad, cyclone thousands 1 is sad, earth quake thousands 1 is sad. How fortunate we are that GOD is being so kind to our sinful country.

[s1ckd09]

I''''d rather trust in observable science than take the word of a politically-leaning rightwinger that it''''s NOT happening! Clearly, IT IS!
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Posted by stn_sage at 04:01 PM : May 12, 2008

How hilarious and utterly ironic that you actually say you trust an observable science. All of the "observed science" shows that NOTHING is happening out of the ordinary, and manmade greenhouse gas emissions are a negligable part of it. It is only the inaccurate and consistentlty WRONG climate models that predict all of this catastrophe.

[squidly8]

Sorry my link didn''t paste.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bangladesh_tropical_cyclones

[squidly8]

The cyclone in Myanmar - someone please show one shred of evidence to support the claim that this particular storm was intensified by global warming. It hit an undeveloped, low lying country that has stripped away the coastal mangrove swamps making it ripe for a disaster. There is a long history of catastrophic cyclones in that area of the pacific. Here is link to Bangladesh cyclones in Wikipedia - they are not an uncommon occurance. It is also has a much smaller coastal area as compared to Myanmar.

[squidly8]

Tornado frequency and intensity are not increasing. What is happening is that our ability to detect them is drastically changing. 500 years ago, less people and virtually no long range communication ability. 100 years ago - more people but essentially the same communication. Now we have radar and satellites that we can detect the precursor conditions and virtually every tornado that forms - whether it does any damage or not. We also have spread ourselves out - we cover more surface area. Essentially we are a bigger target when a tornado does touch down. Therefore we get more damage and more deaths. Just in the last couple of years has the capability of measuring the intensity of a tornado emerged. Trying to compare to a storm 10 or 20 or 50 years is not possible because we can''t classify those storms. Therefore it is inaccurate for someone to claim they are increasing in intensity. The same is true for hurricanes although we have had the capability little longer there. However there has also been a change to the rating system for hurricanes.

[al2008-2009]

I%u2019m appalled at the governor%u2019s lack of response to the global warming thunderstorms and tornadoes. We have no comprehensive strategy in place whatsoever, let alone a detailed plan of action to mitigate the effects of these tornadoes, and mother earth continues to suffer while the governor%u2019s office refuses to go forward and do what%u2019s right for mother earth.
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How long must we sit idly by while our mother continues to suffer from the warming taking place at a feverish pace? How long must our mother suffer before we have proper c02 taxes put into place? How long must the destruction of mother earth take place before we finally put responsible plans into action? How long must we wait until we beef up our corn ethanol production? At least Obama wants to cut c02 pollution by 80%; he is definitely our best hope.
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We the people call upon the governor to implement a comprehensive antiglobal warming strategy at once and work in coordination with state and federal officials; these tornadoes and storms continue to worsen and the quicker we stop the warming the sooner we will see these storms cease. We need action now.

[stn_sage]

I fail to see how there could be any correlation between man-made greenhouse gasses and earthquake/volcanic activity.
Posted by Shamanator at 04:17 PM : May 12, 2008
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My response: I made no such assertion in my prior post. I assert only within their own cycles of causation, are events accelerating resulting in increased activity!

HOW and in what ways they might interact to mutually reinforce and/or accelerate one another''s activities and effects, is something that is being studied in some cases, and needs to be studied in other cases.

Are we going to do it, or wait until disaster arrives?

[shamanator]

I agree with what stn_sage says concerning the recent frequency and intensity of tornadic activity...but, as a person who holds a minor in geology and has been an amateur meteorologist for 25 years, I fail to see how there could be any correlation between man-made greenhouse gasses and earthquake/volcanic activity.

[stn_sage]

My advice: get used to it world!

Global warming---climate change---is real! These upticks in earthquakes, tornadoes, and volcanic activity are part of a new, emerging pattern of change and NOT aberrations!

We can listen to the naysayers who don''t want to believe it---or, we acknowlege it''s happening, study it, decide what we can do to adjust, and then adjust.

If we engage in this neverending debate with the naysayers, continuing to fail to act, there will come a point in time when we will not be able to act!

I''d rather trust in observable science than take the word of a politically-leaning rightwinger that it''s NOT happening! Clearly, IT IS!

[nonayabiness]

Seems like Mother Nature is kinda kickin ''em when they''re down this year. The Myanmar cyclone, China earthquake, and this little lead-filled ghost-town''s tornadoes. Truly tragic.