Comments on: 53 Illegal Immigrants Freed From Captivity

Alleged Smugglers Held Men, Women, Children In Fortified House, Demanded More Money

[pfd572]

bohemian: First of all, schools and medical care are not welfare, and its welfare what everyone is screaming about. Second, I worked for the local municipal government until retiring this year, so I do know what I am talking about, much more than you do. If you are going to debate an issue, don''t muddy the facts. Also, illegal immigrants do pay taxes every time they purchase something, just another example of how wrong your generalizations truly are. I suggest you be a little more honest and correct when throwing out stats and facts (sic).

[pfd572]

You have to prove legal residency to obtain government programs. Children born here to illegal immigrants would therefore qualify, so there is where your money is going. Pre-natal care is often provided to anyone, as an exception. That should make you happy since healthy babies require less uninsured medical care. Charities that receive government funding have fewer controls, so there is another area were taxpayers money maybe going to illegal immigrants. BUT, they do not automatically receive assistance from wholly government programs. Someone has to be a legal citizen in the family. sheesh

[olebd]

It''s certainly not going to get any better when either one of the three candidates become president. They all want some sort of pathway (amnesty) to citizenship for the 12-15 million illegals that are here already...breeding like cockroaches as we speak.

[pfd572]

And obviously this needs to be mentioned often: NOT ALL HISPANIC IMMIGRANTS ARE FROM MEXICO, MANY ARE FROM OTHER CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICAN COUNTRIES, which are in chaos from civil or drug wars and even genocide. All this stereotyping and ignorance is avoidable with just a little reading and research.

[pfd572]

babykiller: many of the illegal immigrants are victims of persecution and civil or drug wars. In many cases they maybe considered refugees, defined as somebody seeking safe place: somebody who seeks or takes refuge in a foreign country, especially to avoid war or persecution.
Encarta . World English Dictionary ) & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

I wish people would either tone down their rhetoric of superiority or educate themselves before they make a comment. sheesh

[pfd572]

dylan: Just a suggestion, but you need to read and think before you post. We were talking about welfare programs, not public schools or medical care. They are not the same, contrary to what you may believe. So I stand by my comment, it is correct. Non-citizens cannot collect unemployment, welfare, subsidized housing, or other GOVERNMENT programs. Someone else mentioned private programs were welfare, and that too is incorrect.

[dylanxxv]

maedean: you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Non-citizens do NOT have access to welfare programs. Period, end of story. (if they have had a child born in the USA, the child has access to some programs, such as nutritional)

You self-centered hypocrites need to learn some manners and how to ''''talk'''' to people in a civil manner. All the nastiness always seems to come from either right-wingers or ignorant low-lifes.

Posted by pfd572 at 05:06 PM : May 12, 2008

WoW...Talk about being ignorant...Check your facts before spewing out stuff you obviously have no knowledge of...Do you think those illegals pay taxes to those American schools they attend? Do you think those illegals pay for their doctor services? NO...WE taxpaying Americans pay for them...

[bohemianmob]

maedean: you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Non-citizens do NOT have access to welfare programs. Period, end of story. (if they have had a child born in the USA, the child has access to some programs, such as nutritional)

You self-centered hypocrites need to learn some manners and how to ''''talk'''' to people in a civil manner. All the nastiness always seems to come from either right-wingers or ignorant low-lifes.


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Posted by pfd572


I guess the anchor babies account for this 338 billion dollar per year figure. Are you really that naive?

[bohemianmob]

12. The National Policy Institute, ''estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'' Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. ''The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million *** Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.''
Verify at:
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
Are we THAT stupid?

[bohemianmob]

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html 9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that''s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in
the US
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth,heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. verify at: Homeland Security Report:
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

[bohemianmob]

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal
aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance
programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3.$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4.$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5.$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.htm

Hey, these five aspiring entrepreneurs just need more American training. An American businessman would have stripped them to the waist, left their socks, taken their shoes and then made them wear a sign: No Shirt, No Shoes, No (immigration) Service.------------------------------------------
Posted by cpaide at 06:16 PM
"...as demonstrated by their tendency toward rioting and gang violence wherever they are present in large numbers."
Ever watch the "Gangs of New York?" Ever hear of the Hay Market Riots? John Lewis? KKK? Kent State? Ever hear of Rodney King? As a matter of fact, ever hear of the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr? Or that paragon of the patient application of reason, Lee Harvey Oswald? We wouldn''t want those "hispanic tendencies" to contaminate our pure-blood democratic lineage, now would we? Maybe if we gave them a training manual, something like "how to win friends and influence people in six easy hangings?"

[cpaide]

"The Jews did not invade Nazi territory illegally as the Mexicans are doing, and we are not putting Mexicans in ovens as the Nazis did."
Posted by babykilller

note also that the mexicans (i.e. hispanics) invaded america once before and slaughtered the natives (indians), much as the nazis did the jews. no doubt they would do the same to americans if they had the chance, as demonstrated by their tendency toward rioting and gang violence wherever they are present in large numbers.

[pensacola88]

Under international treaty, our borders will be open for casual crossing by citizens of any country that has no hostilities with our country. It has been that way since our country was formed and recognized in the Treaty of Paris in 1783. The first country we opened our borders to was Canada, whose cititzens came from the USA that didn''t wan''t to fight for independance from Great Britan.

Some of the posters on this comment stream need to study their history and gain healthier beliefs about border control, immigration and caring for refugees.

God forbid, but one day it may be us who become refugees. It is not impossible to discover yourself becoming homeless, unemployed, disabled, and begging. The face of poverty is not pleasant, but the face of ignorance and inhumane treatment is downright ugly. Let any German who survived WWII tell you, what it was like to discover what was happening in their backyard right under their noses. The way I read many postings here, I can see many would like to give the same treatment to Mexicans as the Nazi''s gave to Jews. True Americans won''t stand for it!! Only phony Americans would tolerate indignant treatment of Latin or Mexican refugees.

[pfd572]

maedean: you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Non-citizens do NOT have access to welfare programs. Period, end of story. (if they have had a child born in the USA, the child has access to some programs, such as nutritional)

You self-centered hypocrites need to learn some manners and how to ''talk'' to people in a civil manner. All the nastiness always seems to come from either right-wingers or ignorant low-lifes.

[quetzalcrist]

dmw1167 ..

they come here to make $$$$$.....
not to become "americans"
Despite what you might believe not everyone aspires to such a small thing..

[quetzalcrist]

rudy654 ..

Beautiful Country, Chihuahua,

[penskeone]

Don''''t know about any princess. But grandfather was 1/4 Cherokee, at least that much I know. BTW, not white, I''''m Cajun. Ya know, kinda a mix of many races.


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Posted by Klingon69


YOUR THE BIGGEST JOKE! GET OFF THE FOODSTAMPS! IT''S BEEN OVER YEAR, HASN''T YOUR UNEMPLOYEMENT BENEFITS RAN OUT YET?

[rudy654-2009]

Take the plight of the Tarahumara Indians on the Northern Mexican border. Unfortunately, they have been harrassed by the drug cartel that kidnaps them, enslaves them, or kills them, and not a word is said about it. Many of them have fled to live illegally in the US, only to be deported back to where they are killed.

[quetzalcrist]

A Cajun Indian??
dam.n........