Comments on: Philly Police Probe Beating Caught On Tape

6 Officers Removed From Street Duty; Commissioner: Behavior On Video "Unacceptable"

[bobnjersey]

[We don''''t want to turn America into a police state.]
[Posted by vmcneal2 at 11:22 AM : May 08, 2008]

it''s already there.

[notblue]

dragonwagon5, of course your giving the criminal shooters the benefit of doubt while assuming the police are in the wrong just like the way you blame America for the crimes of the Muslim extremists, that''s the leftwing way.

"Can''t we all just get along?"

[dat1guysd]

whether or not those guys were seen shooting someone, they still have rights, if the police involved get just a slap on the wrist i hope the citizens of Philly riot. this one is obviously going too get people stirred up.

[waganupa]

We need laws. Don''t blame the police for all the crime, and get BOTH sides of the story before passing judgment. For those of you who do not know, there are drugs that can make the average person strong enough to break their own bones struggling. The police must deal with this without anything except the "law" on their side. I have seen, while I was waiting in the emergency room, a small young man on drugs, break loose from 4 police officers and run out of the building. The officers could not shoot or restrain this person. They had to let him go. People do drugs; they buy and sell - and all of this goes down with violence and death. Drug dealers get shot and shoot people. The sooner we face this the better off we will all be. The police have a nearly impossible job, however this does not excuse them from breaking the law. So, what do we do? Deny it all and get angry when we see violence in the news? It seems like this is all our culture can do for now. No one seems to be grappling with WHY we have a drug problem in this country in the first place.

[prinzowhales]

A real investigation would have revealed if the suspects had fired a weapon prior to their arrest. As a matter of fact, such a test should have already been made and the results reported...If the testing was not done, it tells us that the Philly cops do not believe their own story...if it was done, it tells us that more than likely it was negative...otherwise, it would have been released to bolster the government case for detaining the suspects. Now, what is the status of the paraffin tests?

[lochlan-2009]

"but officers said they had witnessed them shoot three people on a drug corner moments earlier"

If you believe that these people shot someone in front of police officers, I have ocean front property for sale in Arizona. Quite obviously the police are lieing (nothing new), now it''s the DA''s turn to show where his loyalties lie, the victemized citizen or crooked, abusive cops.

Why haven''t these officers been fired. They clearly have shown already they don''t warrant the responsibility to wear those badges. If it was up to me, all abuses of authority would triple your sentence on your charges.

FIRE THEM, CHARGE THEM, AND PUT THEM IN JAIL!!!

[vmcneal2]

Do you want to know the secret to not getting your *** kicked by the cops after you shoot someone... Don''''t shoot anyone. Simple. Obey the Friggin law.


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Posted by guyfrompa45 at 09:56 AM : May 08, 2008

Nobody likes people who shoot people. At the time of the police beating these guys were "suspects" and we can''t allow our police to act like thugs. We don''t want to turn America into a police state.

[cwhatiknow]

What shooting are the cops talking about? If they really witness them at a shooting trust and believe we would of heard about it and the officers would not be on DESK DUTY!! This is a prime example of a cover up that people be talking about.

[bostonpaul14]

Hey, 11213 K, Ramsey said, but officers said they had witnessed them shoot three people on a drug corner moments earlier

What about the college girls on tape beating that girl up? THEY are in trouble right? Assault and battery is illegal. The police have no right to beat on people unless it is in self defense or the suspect is trying to get away and needs to be subdued. The officers "holding" the suspect down should have put the cuffs on him and that is the end of it.
RedVeg has it right! In an unrelated story, in my home town of Hull, the police are now conducting
"PRACTISE" lock-downs where they are actually "SEARCHING" students, without probable cause,
(because it is a ''practise'' lockdown right?) and arresting students if they find anything! This is in clear violation of the rules of search and seizure. The police are supposed to follow the law just like you and I. I wish CBS NEWS would look into this.

[displeased]

None of this would have been a controversy if it hadn''''t been filmed.
Posted by MexInvasion

Good point. How many other beatings go unreported or are concealed due to police "justification"?

[cwhatiknow]

Lets say these gentlemen were coming from a shooting that the cops observed, what happen at the shooting that they were not arrested at the scene. There were no guns found in the car or on the men. So if the cops seen them shooting, where are the guns. Oh yeah and if the cops were at the scene i''m sure they were observing the gentlemen leaving the scene, so where are the guns? To me this sounds like another excuse for the cops. And whats up with the high behind bails? They really don''t want any one to see how bad the beat those gentlemen up.

[mexinvasion]

Just think. None of this would have been a controversy if it hadn''t been filmed.

[displeased]

It doesn''''t justify the behavior of the police to nearly beat some "human" being to death and think its ok.
Posted by zoe2006

I''m not sure how they can justify their behavior. I just can''t figure any reason to beat somebody while they''re being held down. I guess we''ll hear their side eventually, after they have time to modify their stories. I doubt if any will admit they have anger management issues.

[redveg]

What happened before the stop is irrelevant. They claim that these three guys did something, which means they have to arrest them and prove it in court. If we let the police be judge, jury, and executioner, then we have lost all meaning of the United States of America. If the police are telling the truth, then they are still in the wrong and should go to prison just like anyone else who commits the crime that they committed; but so far the evidence doesn%u2019t even back up their story. If they truly witnessed them shooting, and if they saw them well enough for a certain identity, then why didn%u2019t they see what happened to the gun(s).

[notblue]

vmcneal2, LOL! Typical lib!

[displeased]

Some of you need to learn how to read and comprehend. Where did it say that cops witnessed these men gunning down anyone?
Posted by keisha11213

The statement below is in the 5th paragraph:

"No weapons were found in the car or on the suspects, Ramsey said, but officers said they had witnessed them shoot three people on a drug corner moments earlier."

[goinginsane2]

What no one is talking about is what happened prior the the stop. . Why would a helicopter be flying over a "typical" traffic stop. . Did the guys run? what were the chain of events leading up to the stop? I understand the guys were arrested and charged with attempted murder. . So did the officers radio in for the stop and then all the units converged including the helo, and then stop them? Everyone is making comments only about what happened after the stop but no one is talking about or viewing any video of before the stop. . .

"The three suspects - Dwayne Dyches, Brian Hall and Pete Hopkins, all of Philadelphia - were each charged with attempted murder and related counts in connection with the earlier shooting, police said."
Some of you need to learn how to read and comprehend. Where did it say that cops witnessed these men gunning down anyone? Even though they are "guilty until proven innocent," THEY ARE SUSPECTS.

It seems that people don''t understand that its stuff like this that makes people hate cops and then they end up getting shot. How would you feel if your brother was killed on his wedding day while not doing anything wrong and no one was punished for it. I would definitely want to fatally hurt one of those cops. I can bet that the three men were black and we all know blacks will never get fair treatment.