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Prosecutors Worry 18-Year-Old South Carolina Senior May Commit Suicide

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Deaths resulted on both sides of the feud, but the violence against the Saints reached its pinnacle when a band of vigilantes attacked a Mormon settlement at Haun''s Mill. As the marauders laid waste to the settlement, most of the Mormons fled into the cold January night and hid in the woods. Another group of Mormons hid in a blacksmith forge, where they were discovered by the vigilantes and gunned down in cold blood. Witnesses reported that one small boy, begging for his life, was shot in the head as his murderer told him, "Nits make lice." In all, 18 men, women and children were murdered that night, achieving martyr status among their Mormon brethren.

Church teachings promised a battle between the righteous and the damned, and in the 10 years that followed the Mormon exodus, Brigham Young and his hand-picked group of enforcers carefully shaped and prepared the Saints for the holy war.

The final massacre took a surprisingly short time, considering so many people had to be killed individually. The macabre parade marched nearly a mile before Major Higbee halted the procession and ordered "Do your duty!" Immediately, shots rang out as each Mormon turned on the immigrants who had given themselves over for protection.

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One of Mormonism''s greatest strengths has always been its commitment to evangelism; this practice has led to a rapid increase in converts. The Saints believe that aboriginal Americans are the remnants of one of the two tribes of Israel that found their way to North America. One of the church''s strongest missions was to return the Indians -- Lamanites, according to the Book of Mormon -- to the True Church. Once this was accomplished, the creation of Paradise on Earth could begin.

Within a few years of the founding of the church in 1830 in upstate New York, the Mormons had at least 2,000 members and numerous missionaries preaching among the Indians on the frontier

Near Independence, Missouri, the Saints "lived in peace and quiet, no lawsuits with each other or with the world; few or no debts were contracted, few promises broken; there were no thieves, robbers, or murderers; few or no idlers; all seemed to worship God with a ready heart," according to Orson Pratt''s brother, Parley, whose own fortunes would figure prominently in the buildup to the Mountain Meadows massacre. "On Sundays the people assembled to preach, pray, sing, and receive the ordinances of God. Other days all seemed busy in the various pursuits of industry. In short, there has seldom, if ever, been a happier people upon the earth than the church of the saints now were."

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Herbert Mullin tried to persuade his fellow mental patients at a psychiatric ward in San Luis Obispo to help him change %u201Cthe spiritual nature of the world.%u201D He got into yelling matches with God, terrifying his roommate in San Francisco. Yet Mullin%u2019s rebellion against religion often flipped into a full embrace of Catholicism. He carried a Bible around, and talked about becoming a priest. His mother was shocked by his murder of a Catholic priest. %u201CHe%u2019d been a deeply religious child, you know, altar boy in the Catholic Religion,%u201D she said.

Sanctified Killing

By killing Father Tomei, Mullin seems to have struck close to the source of his anger -- his own stern, Roman Catholic father. Father Tomei%u2019s murder agitated him more than any of his victims, according to psychiatrist Donald Lunde.

Mullin later claimed that White looked like Jonah from the Bible, and sent him telepathic messages: %u201CHey, man, pick me up and throw me over the boat. Kill me so that others will be saved.%u201D

he applied to the Marine Corps. The recruiting sergeant was reluctant, but after Mullin%u2019s badgering he recommended him for service. Mullin was tremendously excited that his application had been accepted -- he now had a purposeful mission.

On January 15, 1973, Mullin passed both the physical and psychiatric exams for the Marines, but when he stubbornly refused to sign a document acknowledging his arrest record, he was dismissed.

[nothappyatall]

(re David Koresh/branch dividian FBI raid)

"This is how the world is attacking God''s people," Wesson told his family, according to the Fresno Bee. "This man is just like me. He is making children for the Lord. That''s what we should be doing, making children for the Lord."

according to neighbors. Wesson didn''t work and attended church meetings almost nightly.

"He shunned money because he said there was a better way %u2014 give your heart to God and he''ll provide," Ron Wonhoutka told the San Francisco Chronicle.
testified that Wesson frequently talked about the second coming of Christ and asked his children whether they were ready to "go to the Lord" %u2014 or kill themselves.



There''s many MANY more of these, thats just a sampling of how right wing religious nut jobs kill people, you can read their church going history right here.

[nothappyatall]

Marcus Wesson, yet another right wing religious nut job;

DNA tests would quickly reveal the household''s dirtiest secret: Wesson was the father of all nine victims, seven of whom were spawned from sexual relations with his own daughters and nieces.

Marcus Wesson''s mother, Carrie, was a Seventh-day Adventist who force-fed her children daily Bible lessons and whipped them with an electrical cord, a relative would later tell a court. As a child, Marcus Wesson''s favorite game was to play preacher, a pastime he would perfect over the decades as he twisted the scriptures to his own perverse ends.

He believed society was full of sin and peril and cloistered his children to shield them from it.

The Wesson case has drawn many comparisons to that of Winnfred Wright, a religious and polygamous nut job from San Francisco who ruled his three common-law wives and 13 children with an iron fist until one of his offspring died of malnutrition.

Child abuse is another commonality. When Wesson''s children didn''t do their homework or Bible lessons, he hit them with a stick wrapped in duct tape or small baseball bat.

[jankebenz]

Ah! what have we here? the news poster who is living proof of the truth in Romans 1:22. "Claiming themselves to be wise without God, they became utter fools instead"

[nothappyatall]

Howard Unruh had had an ordinary childhood and seemed to have been a well-behaved boy, although reportedly he was quiet and moody.

He attended the Lutheran church every Sunday and studied the Bible.
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Unruh''s brother, James, 25, said that Howard was a

"born-again Christian" who had undergone a deep religious experience and had tried to live by the ways of Christ.
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When he was able to leave Cooper Hospital, Unruh was sent to the New Jersey Hospital for the Insane (now Trenton Psychiatric Hospital), to be installed into a bed in a private cell in the maximum-security Vroom Building.

Only twelve hours earlier, 10-year-old John Wilson, who had been with his mother and grandmother in a car when all of them were shot, had died from his injury. This put the death count at thirteen.

Pronounced insane, he was immune from criminal prosecution but was sentenced for the remainder of his life to the Vroom building, the unit for the criminally insane.

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Mary Freeman and Matthew Winkler were married in 1996 in a backyard ceremony at Mary''s family home in Knoxville, with Clark Freeman presiding. They returned to Freed-Hardeman, but financial considerations forced the young couple to leave college in 1997 after Mary got pregnant, according to a former classmate.

The young couple settled in Nashville, where Matthew completed his Bible study degree while working as a youth minister at the Bellevue Church of Christ congregation.
Matthew Winkler next took a job teaching Bible classes at Boyd Christian School, another Church of Christ affiliate, in McMinnville, in middle Tennessee.

"Matt had it all," the principal there, Eva Ferrell, told Woody Baird of the Associated Press. "He was handsome. He was full of personality. He was smart. But most importantly he had a good, Christian soul."

Winkler admitted that she pointed a shotgun at her husband''s back but said she did not intend to pull the trigger. She indicated she was in a state of near delirium over their marriage. Their checking account was overdrawn by $5,000, and she was under pressure from Matthew over the check-kiting scheme.

[princessnori-2009]

Yea, that Jim Jones who passed out the KKKoolaide to his byble-thumping true believers was just a fairy tale created by evil "libs"........
What a maroon....

Posted by veteran72 at 09:52 PM : Apr 30, 2008

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I don''t know who you''re calling a "maroon" when you don''t even have your facts straight.

Jim Jones declared HIMSELF God. He denounced the Bible. There are videos of him THROWING it down, if you care to look for the documentaries on YouTube. Secondly, that "KKKool-aid" comment is ridiculous. He wasn''t a white supremacist at all. In fact, he was just the opposite. His entire congregation was interracial in a time when such things were taboo. Please, learn your facts before you spout your nonsense.

[nothappyatall]

The Weavers soon began to think that all organized religions had strayed from the written word of the Bible and that Roman Catholics and Jews were so far removed from the Bible that they had become enemies. The Weavers formed a study group and taught their small group of followers that the Bible was the literal word of God %u2500 or Yahweh %u2500 as they began referring to him and should be acknowledged as the truth. They would only read from the King James Version of the Bible, because they considered other versions to be influenced by pagans
Although it had been written so long ago, they felt that the Bible was opening their eyes to the current events around them, including conspiracies involving their own government, which they began referring to as %u201CZOG%u201D (Zionist Organized Government), a Jewish controlled government. During one particular study session, the group was reading Matthew 24, according to the King James Version, in which Jesus reportedly spoke of the Apocalypse. Those passages made everything clear to Vicki, especially when she caught notice of a particular section referring to the mountains as a safe harbor and a place to be saved. Vicki was now convinced that her visions were in fact an omen. The Weavers decided to find the mountain in Vicki%u2019s vision.

Randy began collecting guns, which he felt would be needed to protect his family and Vicki began to study the Amish and self-sufficient lifestyles.

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David Koresh and the Waco Incident

while one got away, and officials then broadcast a request to Koresh to give up without a fight. His response was a scripture reading.

Wessinger interprets his behavior within her analysis of end-times religious groups by pointing out that his "ultimate concern" was to "obey God''s will, as revealed in the Bible, in order to be included in the millennial kingdom." They had believed that day to be imminent and had armed themselves for its eventuality. Inside the buildings were over 100 people who believed in Koresh''s divine gifts and his ability to dictate to them what God wished for them.

By the end of that shocking day, 80 people were found dead, 23 of them children under 17. Koresh had fathered 14 of them.
Many of the victims had died from gunshot wounds and one child had been stabbed to death. Over 100 firearms were eventually recovered from the scene, and 400,000 rounds of ammunition.

Randy Weaver, another religious fanatic;

The Weavers were deeply religious, however they had a difficult time finding a denomination which matched their views, hence they often bounced back and forth from Evangelical, Presbyterian, and Baptist churches. As Randy grew up, he strove to make his father proud. He earned decent grades in school and enjoyed a variety of sports and ultimately accepted Jesus as his savior at the age of 11.

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He married a woman named Debbie and fathered two more children.
On the same day that his divorce was granted, Brian David Mitchell married his third wife, Wanda Barzee, a divorcee six years older than him who had six children of her own. Mitchell''s increasingly extreme religious practices alienated Barzee''s children, and they eventually moved out of the house. He declared that he spoke to angels and said that he was a prophet of God guided by visions. His new wife treated him like a holy man and took to calling herself "God Adorneth." Together they wandered the streets of Salt Lake City, wearing white robes and panhandling for money.


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[nothappyatall]

The Columbine killers wore pro-Evolution shirts while
Posted by ritewingman

So now you blame the kind of SHIRTS they wore as though there was some kind of connection?? How daft!

"all the school shootings."

Gee, you make it sound like there''s hundreds of school shootings every week, these are RARE aberations, but if you want to play this game, how about DENIS RAIDER? you know, the family man CHURCH DEACON buybull thumping idiot who loved his church but liked to rape and kill women in his spare time, how many women did he kill before he was caught?

Lets examine a few others shall we? Lets start with the guy who abducted Elizabeth Smart;

By the age of 16, Brian had started acting out and was caught exposing himself to a child. He was sent to live with his grandmother, but it wasn''t long before he got involved with drugs and alcohol and dropped out of school. He got married at age 19 and fathered two children, but the marriage did not last, and he fled to New Hampshire to keep his ex-wife from gaining custody of the kids.

By 1980 Mitchell had returned to Utah and dedicated himself to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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[jankebenz]

Funny how violence, drug abuse,and crime rates amoung youth, has seen a very dramatic increase every since God,prayer,and the bible were removed from the classrooms.

[nothappyatall]

Because there is POWER in His precious name. That''''''''s why.
Posted by libagenda (sickrick)

He has the POWER of delusion over simple minds like YOU. Perhaps atheists come here to be amused.
Posted by Displeased

Yeah, I come in to rip this gezus idiot a new bung hole every chance I get, its cheap entertainment, but I also come in to be a not so silent voice of opposition against right wing control of this site, society and laws


youtube.com/user/dersheeple

[nothappyatall]

Romans1:28, and because of this(rejection of God)he gave them over to depraved minds.----

Seems this story and scores of others just like it,are proving the bible correct.

Posted by jerkaboner

Oh RIGHT, there have ALWAYS been mentally unfit nuts, just look at gezus, he was nuttier than all of them.

[veteran72]

The Columbine killers wore pro-Evolution shirts while they killed. Take a look at those who have instigated all the school shootings. Strange how none of them are fundamentalist Christians. I thought that religion was supposed to be the cause of all the problems. This kid is just another victim of a system that teaches that there is no morality, no God, no right and wrong. What do you expect?


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Posted by ritewingman at 09:16 AM : Apr 30, 2008
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Yea, that Jim Jones who passed out the KKKoolaide to his byble-thumping true believers was just a fairy tale created by evil "libs"........
What a maroon....

[speakinup]

"A teen accused of plotting to blow up his high school told police that he wanted to die, go to heaven and kill Jesus.


Hmmm - J, is that you ?



"Ever wonder why theres only 12 books on jesus, but Thousands on hitler Posted by Quetzal0666



Well, I kinda wonder if you''re being factual on the number 12, but it MIGHT have something to do with the fact that Gutenberg wasn''t around to create the printing press until the mid 1400''s. So unless you want to count the Chinese block printing, and I don''t think Christ made it there while he was on earth, then I''d say, why so few for Hitler.

[dmhphils]

Posted by jankebenz at 07:40 PM : Apr 30, 2008

Absolutely!

[dmhphils]

Ever wonder why theres only 12 books on jesus, but Thousands on hitler, The other Christian....


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Posted by Quetzal0666 at 05:21 PM : Apr 30, 2008

And they say "Christians" are whacked.