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by flajoe1 April 18, 2008 1:22 AM EDT
How about you why are you mother henning this law breakers? ---

Posted by grandmamu at 10:05 PM

When did I say not to send them back? The law breakers are on both sides of this issue. If your going go after one you need to go after the other.
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by grandmamu April 18, 2008 1:05 AM EDT

No sympathy for a fellow human being? Do you actually HATE these people? What have they done to you, besides what the politicians have told you they''''ve done?


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Posted by Flajoe1 at 09:58 PM : Apr 17, 2008

Nothing personal. I do not hate anyone, I just feel everyone should follow the law.

How about you why are you mother henning this law breakers?
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by grandmamu April 18, 2008 1:04 AM EDT
I do not look at it the same way you do. I feel that the companies hire them because they know they will work for less, the illegals are enticing the companies as well as the companies enticing the illegal immigrants. It still boils down to the ILLEGALS choose to break the law. Its the same here in America if I chose to break the law I would be punished and I know this in advance. I know if I break the law consequences will follow. They should know that if they break the law consequences will follow they know the risk they choose to break the law they should be punished and sent back home. Until they learn how to play by the rules. The Law.
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by flajoe1 April 18, 2008 12:58 AM EDT
flajoe1 What is your bleeding heart problem. Why don''''t you sponser some of these illegal aliens and make them legal. We are not calling them and asking them to break the law they have a choice get proper documentation or break the law. They choose to break the LAW. I have no sympathy for any of them. Send every one of them back to the start and make them get the proper documents.
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Posted by grandmamu at 09:44 PM

No sympathy for a fellow human being? Do you actually HATE these people? What have they done to you, besides what the politicians have told you they''ve done?
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by wardoglrs April 18, 2008 12:49 AM EDT
the truth about immigration

google "Immigration Gumballs"
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by flajoe1 April 18, 2008 12:49 AM EDT
It all starts with crossing the border illegally, no matter how you look at it, you can''''t make it right for them to break the law just because they wanted to come her to get an ILLEGAL JOB, USING ILLEGAL SS#, STEALING AMERICANS ID. No we did not do this they chose to break the law and not get the legal papers they should take the time to get.
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Posted by grandmamu at 09:31 PM

I agree with you. If they are here illegally they should be sent back. I would like to stop the reason they come in the first place.

I guess what I%u2019m trying to say is we need to come up with a policy that best benefits everyone involved to solve the problem. The only people who are benefiting from the current policy are the companies that hire them and the politicians who keep getting re-elected by blaming it all on the immigrants.
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by grandmamu April 18, 2008 12:44 AM EDT

This is true.
Politicians will not go after American business so they go after the weakest group that will not harm their chance at being re-elected. They blame the illegal immigrants.

flajoe1 What is your bleeding heart problem. Why don''t you sponser some of these illegal aliens and make them legal. We are not calling them and asking them to break the law they have a choice get proper documentation or break the law. They choose to break the LAW. I have no sympathy for any of them. Send every one of them back to the start and make them get the proper documents.
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by laine1960 April 18, 2008 12:43 AM EDT
HEAVILY fine the companies involved and also charge them with sending the illegals back to their home countries. If the illegals had given birth to children here, the children are NOT to be citizens...and the companies can also pay for the hospital charges for such. Sorry, but other countries that have been around for thousands of years before the US can solve their own problems just as this one did. NOT come here! The ''inn is full'' sign is officially posted.
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by flajoe1 April 18, 2008 12:40 AM EDT
The problem is that drying up the jobs will not be that easy.The greed of corprate america will try anything to keep their cheap labor force----

Posted by rebelscout at 09:27 PM

This is true.
Politicians will not go after American business so they go after the weakest group that will not harm their chance at being re-elected. They blame the illegal immigrants.
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by grandmamu April 18, 2008 12:31 AM EDT
I still hold my ground the first one to break the law is the illegal alien, they know the law and they choose to break the law to come here and break another law and another and another etc........

It all starts with crossing the border illegally, no matter how you look at it, you can''t make it right for them to break the law just because they wanted to come her to get an ILLEGAL JOB, USING ILLEGAL SS#, STEALING AMERICANS ID. No we did not do this they chose to break the law and not get the legal papers they should take the time to get.
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by rebelscout April 18, 2008 12:27 AM EDT
The problem is that drying up the jobs will not be that easy.The greed of corprate america will try anything to keep their cheap labor force.
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by flajoe1 April 18, 2008 12:20 AM EDT
THEY HAVE TO GET HERE FIRST TO BE HIRED.
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Posted by grandmamu at 09:04

They come here because they KNOW they will be hired.

They know that Americans are willing to break the law to make a profit. We are too quick to blame others for problems we created. Dry up the jobs and they will stop coming. Believe it or not it is that simple. WE did this, not them.
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by grandmamu April 18, 2008 12:04 AM EDT
Why should I dial 1 for english
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Posted by popstom1 at 06:24 PM

So you can speak to someone in India......

Point taken

Now back to the discussion

You have to start from the beginning, The illegal Mexicans are coming here illegally any way they can by land, sea and air we are under attack and flooded with these "undocumented workers". Yes the businesses do hire them but they have to get here first to start the cycle. Now if the business is sending and paying for them to come her illegally that''s another story. I would not put it past large companies to do this sort of thing. But this has not been proven yet.

The facts they come here illegally and get the ball rolling, they have their anchor babies, get a job "illegally" by a company that is willing to break the law and hire them.

Point fingers and blame everyone involved.

THEY HAVE TO GET HERE FIRST TO BE HIRED.
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by rushlimpdrug April 17, 2008 11:38 PM EDT

Send them ALL back.
Start with the mexicans,
then the south americans,
then the blacks (they will be the most vocal)
then asians,
then the europeans.

Then I can live in peace.
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by drivelphobe April 17, 2008 11:09 PM EDT
Hi Erasmus..

It''s great to have memories and family traditions that are respectful of one''s culture. Just don''t try to change the country you''re immigrating to. I agree that personal activity is just that, personal.

The problem we have here with immigrants, particularly with the latinos, is their refusal to learn English. The ramifications are horrendous, from government forms now printed in many different languages to accommodate, interpreters in courtrooms, hospitals, law enforcement agencies, etc. The impact on the school system is financially crippling as well as educationally stifling.

The practice of urinating in public is another fine cultural activity we get to enjoy. The middle-easterners are destroying neighborhoods with their mosque-like gigantic structures, changing the character of entire areas. The middle-easterners have cultural ways that are in direct conflict with our laws and way of life.

I guess what I meant to state more clearly is that when an immigrant arrives, it should be with the attitude of joining in and becoming a part of the new country, not trying to establish pockets of their homeland. Assimilation is key to success in the new country.

What we seem to have here is visitors, who come to take advantage, sending money home and eventually planning to return. They are not here to become citizens, just parasites.

No one stole the land. It was won in war.

Have a nice day.
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by raskal_2 April 17, 2008 10:50 PM EDT
Tuebor2 is exactly right.
In the world of business, it only makes sense to do business if it worth it to come back tomorrow and do business again.
Labor costs are always a major consideration in profits.(the part that makes business worth it)
In the recent past companies have moved out of country, contracted out of country, and in this case enticed Illegal Aliens to come to this country. Once here itis in their intrest to hide or "fly under the radar" if you will.
Temporary Labor is a niche that matches workers to employers with an immediate need to get something done. Frankly a temp labor company will always benifit if they can supply warm bodies reliably with " no fuss no muss."
I have tracked companies who will use temp labor to break a union''s hold on the payroll by scheduling all employees to work less than 40 hours so that many union guarantees don''t kick in and they take up the slack with Temp labor who also never breech the 40 hour barrier. This creates a vacuum and here in Santa Barbara, Ca. the coyotes (illegal transporters of illegal aliens) will drop off a fresh bunch to fill a specific order, and to the day labor pick-up point the city has so graciously built and maintains.
I have watched as one of these happened where the coyote explained where the rescue misson was for sleep and food, and then hand out id''s and social security cards to all.
Who do you think doesn''t want it to stop?
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by flajoe1 April 17, 2008 10:45 PM EDT
The illegal are here steqaling our jobs,----

Posted by frankbowers at 07:33 PM

Illegal immigrants are not stealing your jobs. American employers are firing YOU and hiring illegal immigrants.

Why would an American employer do this to a fellow American?
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by frankbowers April 17, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
I think the announcers at the radio station should be arrested and then fired and the station have it license removed for notifying the illegal aliens of the raid so as to prevent being capture or arrested. The illegal are here steqaling our jobs, tax dollars at the clincs, schools and grocery stores they are also stealing a commodity called gas for the hard working American Citizens by being here and not paying their tax and driving around using up the gas as they have more money due to they are paying no tax. The stations announcers need to be in jail now they breaking the law by telli9ng the illegal aliens it would be like telling the bank robber the cops are on their way to hide out until they were gone and it would be okay, then to come out.
i surely hope ICE is looking into arresting the announcers and then closing the station for national security breach.
Frank Bowers of Austin, TX
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by truth-hurts April 17, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
We are NOT talking about immigrants here, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!!
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by flajoe1 April 17, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
Why should I dial 1 for english
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Posted by popstom1 at 06:24 PM

So you can speak to someone in India......
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