Comments on: 1 Year After Rampage, Va. Tech Remembers

Campus Holds Vigil, Solemn Memorial To Victims Of Worst Mass Shooting In U.S. History

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by gunownerdan April 16, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
jumkey,
Give it a rest, bigot.
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by jumkey April 16, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
Hey gunownerdan, how many gun murders would it take before you support gun control laws?

I mean, if say 1000 people a day were being killed by crackpots with easy, uncontrolled access to firearms would you still be arguing against restrictions?

Or would it take 10,0000? Or 100,000? A million? What is the amount of needless suffering and death you''re willing to allow others to endure before you decide enough is enough.

Just curious.

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by td74va April 16, 2008 5:37 PM EDT
As a Hokie alumni, I mourn the terrible losses of one year ago today. We will never forget, but we will prevail. We are Virginia Tech.
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by gunownerdan April 16, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
I am sorry to be talking about guns here on this tragic anniversary, but the fact that Virginia Tech is a "gun free zone" must never be forgotten.
Self defense is arguably the most important human right there is.
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by displeased April 16, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
Come on guys, we''''ve been asked not to debate pros and cons today. Let''''s accede to these wishes and table debate till another occasion.
Posted by USBrit

I''m fine with holding back, but you have to remember, this is a debate forum. It''s an opportunity for people to share and debate their thoughts on this particular subject. ALL shootings should have the "do not debate" attitude because they ALL affect someone.
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by naucoming4u April 16, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
This story should be renamed. It is not remembering the 32 we lost, or remembering the impact on my campus. It is focused on the issues of guns.

Today is a day of rememberance for me. I am a faculty member at Virginia Tech. I lost a colleague and a student in the shootings.

Let the gun control debate be the focus of other stories on other day. Just not today. Please.

Posted by gll1955 at 08:14 AM : Apr 16, 2008
.............

And so, I shall honor your request by reposting your request for others to read.

May you find strength in this time of remembrance. God bless.
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by mediapreachr April 16, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
The spin machine fails to mention one thing-Cho was not a citizen,so he wasn''t allowed to carry any weapons.
Not one word about that from the press.
But the propaganda is full blown against regular citizens,whose rights are written in stone.
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by usbrit-2009 April 16, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
Now, y''''all can have your AK-47s for hunting those pesky squirrels and I won''''t say a word.

Posted by excoachken

Come on guys, we''ve been asked not to debate pros and cons today. Let''s accede to these wishes and table debate till another occasion.
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by mediapreachr April 16, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
''Killers prefer defenseless victims.
They always have and they always will''
This is so obvious,but we need to say it over again.
This zombie didn''t go to a police station or any other place where people with shoot back-he went to a place advertised to be "gun free".
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by excoachken April 16, 2008 4:04 PM EDT
How about this alternative: Do not restrict guns, but rather I.D. them to the original owner, AND make him equally responsible for any crime committed by that gun in the future. I''ve heard all the gun nuts saying that they "are responsible, law abiding citizens," so let''s take them up on their bragging. We all have been told that "guns don''t commit crimes, only criminals." Make them responsible for the damage that their gun causes for the lifetime of the gun. This is very similar to the lifetime legal liability of owning a backyard trampoline. Now, y''all can have your AK-47s for hunting those pesky squirrels and I won''t say a word.
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by gunownerdan April 16, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
I think the families of the innocent victims should be fighting to allow responsible students and teachers to have the ability to protect themselves and prevent these mass shootings from taking so many lives.
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by dmyers110808 April 16, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
As a college student and someone affected by this event I ask you all, as well did the faculty members of VA Tech, Please do not debat the issue today. Just remember the innocent lives lost and there families.

Thank you
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by jumkey April 16, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
Criminals prefer guns.
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by jumkey April 16, 2008 3:32 PM EDT
"No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre."

This is self-evidently untrue. By logical extension ALL laws are pointless and unenforceable because people break them.

That a person who has lost two children to gun violence would defend the mechanisms that allow guns to get into the hands of the murderers is evidence of the irrational way in which we view gun ownership and use in this country.

If Darrell Scott were to be offered the lives of his children back in exchange for stronger gun laws he would willing take it or be considered insane. Subtract that he CAN''T get his children back, what changes in the equation other than it''s OTHER people''s children are still alive and still in danger of being murdered by gun owners?

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by gunownerdan April 16, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
Killers prefer defenseless victims.
They always have and they always will.
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by bestillandno April 16, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
As a parent of a student who attends a college close to Tech and also has many friends that go to Tech, I think the general consenses is the same. Security issues needed to be addressed as well as the way the system handled students known to be mentally ill, but if someone really wants to plan and execute something like this, there''s not a lot that can be done to stop it. Gun control included.
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by okmd58 April 16, 2008 2:44 PM EDT
Can anyone tell me one gun law a criminal or nut case obeys? How about the so called "Gun Free Zone". Or those little stickers on store doors showing a hand gun with a line thru it? Of course they don''t, only the law abiding citizen doe''s. So go ahead & pass as many gun laws possible, it will not change a thing. The laws only hurt myself & other law abiding citizens.
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by displeased April 16, 2008 2:20 PM EDT
You didn''''t file or sign anything with the store nor did you live there nor did you have insurance with the store. It is just a place you went. A campus is supposed to be safe for kids who are registered and live there unlike a convenient store.
Posted by jh6379

I work at Virginia Tech and I also pay health and life insurance, like the students. I pay life insurance because life is unpredictable. If a gunman barges into my office and kills me, it''s the gunman''s fault, not Virginia Tech''s. And if the kids had insurance, then why aren''t the insurance companies paying the families?
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by maedean April 16, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
Make sure you remind everyone of this so that every crack pot in the US can repete the crime..
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by usbrit-2009 April 16, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
Posted by noaanhc at 08:01 AM : Apr 16, 2008
Posted by gll1955 at 08:14 AM : Apr 16, 2008

Amen.

Seconded.
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