Comments on: Ultimate Fighting Wins Kid Converts

Kids As Young As Six Are Participating In Pugilistic Sport With Their Parents' Approval

[neoconslayer]

I think gunownerdan is correct.
I don''t think that ultimate fighting is a form of martial arts in the sense that aikido or karate or kung fu is.
Those ''arts'' have a lot of grace behind the power.
Ultimate fighting is about unbridled aggression.
I think that is what kids need.
Forget Quai Chang-Kane from the old Kung Fu series catching arrows out of the air, disarming gunmen, and generally embarrassing people with his superior skill.
Get ready for the infliction of sufficient physical pain / permanent damage until your opponent caves in.

[gunownerdan]

Ultimate Fighting reminds me of Rome''s gladiator matches... we''re almost there. In a few years, people will get bored of seeing people fight... and will want them to fight to the death.....part of the signs of a decaying empire I think.
Posted by dredre2k

Unfortunately I think you are very correct.
The movie "IDIOCRACY" is a pretty good film that explains it in better detail.

[bobnjersey]

wow ... talk about different strokes for different folks!

[nycsense]

Questionnews,

There are RULES to every sport! Did you even read my post? In Boxing, the fighter is NOT allowed to continue pummling his opponent while he''s down. You started wrestling when you where 11, not 6, and all those injuries that you recieved weren''t intentional, they were things that could happen to you. I''m sure there were wrestling moves and strategies that your coach taught you. What exactly is the stradegy when pummling an opponent into unconsiousness? Understand the difference?

[dredre2k]

Ultimate Fighting reminds me of Rome''s gladiator matches... we''re almost there. In a few years, people will get bored of seeing people fight... and will want them to fight to the death.

America already has an emporer (in Bush)and a massive military at war and w/ bases all over the world. now we''re allowing gladiator matches?... all the stuff that contributed to Rome''s demise. All part of the signs of a decaying empire I think.

[gunownerdan]

It is very important for people to know how to defend themselves these days, but ultimate fighting for kids?
That''s a bit much in my opinion.
Take some karate lessons or go to the shooting range with grandpa.

[nycsense]

"Thanks for reminding everyone why the rest of the country thinks New Yorkers are self-important A-holes."

Posted by easeup

But am I wrong on this assessment? There are plenty of idiots here too. But, I''ve been to the Mid West, and the things that parents let thier kids do is baffling. For example, ride mini-dirtbikes and ATVs in competitions. Also, giving their kids hunting rifles and having them "hunt" a 500 pound boar. I mean is life so supremely boring for the parents that they allow their children to participate in ultra-dangerous activities? It''s not that I think of myself self important, its that Mid Westerners are acceptionally stupid!

[questionnews]

"NYCSense

What about boxing or olympic wrestling?? Boxing is more dangerous than MMA."

These events that you mention are competitions for young adults to compete in with rules of engagement. In wrestling the goal is to pin your opponent to the mat, then the match is over, and not beat his face in once you have him pinned. I don''''t have a problem with sports, but what they are doing here is not a sport. Just as ultimate fighting competition is not a sport. It''''s an excuse for people to watch others pummle each other for entertainment. Especially children, NOT the same thing at all.

Posted by NYCSense at 12:08 PM : Mar 27, 2008

Boxing is all about beating someone''s face in. MMA is a combination of wrestling & boxing. And there''s hockey where two guys are allowed to pummel each other while the refs sit back and watch. If the issue you have is that men should not hit each other then there would be very few sports left. Although I do agree that young kids should be carefully watched & restricted from the more risky maneuvers.
I started wrestling at 11 years old & continued throughout high school. During that time I had a broken nose, califlower ear, broken rib, hyper extended knee and 3 broken fingers and I don''t think I was any different that any person who participated in wrestling.

[samrensho]

If they start at 6 they''ll be fully trained for Iraq when they''re 18. Way to go parents.

[nycsense]

"NYCSense

What about boxing or olympic wrestling?? Boxing is more dangerous than MMA."

These events that you mention are competitions for young adults to compete in with rules of engagement. In wrestling the goal is to pin your opponent to the mat, then the match is over, and not beat his face in once you have him pinned. I don''t have a problem with sports, but what they are doing here is not a sport. Just as ultimate fighting competition is not a sport. It''s an excuse for people to watch others pummle each other for entertainment. Especially children, NOT the same thing at all.

[easeup-2009]

"It doesn''''t surprise me that this is going on in the MidWest...which is chock-full of redneck retards who think this is perfectly acceptable."

Posted by NYCSense at 11:53 AM : Mar 27, 2008

Thanks for reminding everyone why the rest of the country thinks New Yorkers are self-important A-holes.

[gkc99]

There''s a missed opportunity here--training kids 6 and up how to fight with knives and swords. That could come in very handy for self-defense.

For example, you could have knife fights with full protective gear where the kids only use blunted Bowie knives or Arkansas toothpicks on each other.

[questionnews]

NYCSense

What about boxing or olympic wrestling?? Boxing is more dangerous than MMA.

[smendicino]

I have two boys 10 and 8 that started Martial Arts class. The school they go to does not allow contact to the head. There is no wrestling on the floor and they only score if they make contact on the center midsection pad. A student can lose points if they are too aggressive in a match. The higher belt students help the lower belt students with their forms. They are not allowed to practice on any brothers or sisters. When they practice, they practice their form ( Kata). Their teacher is a sixth degree black belt in the evening. During the day he works in the sports rehap department in the hospital so he is always telling the children how to be careful. As a parent you have to be careful what school you go to. I picked this school because I wanted the my boys to see it as an art form and to learn discipline. With a good teacher the children treat each other with respect. It can be a good sport. It all depends on how it is taught.

[mythoughtsr]

Anyone who allows their child to participate in this sport should have their parental rights examined. The people who allow this sport to exist should be fired. I don''t care how much protection they are wearing, how much they want to call it a sport, this is a white trash, redneck joke. No one takes it seriously but then again, the people who are involved in this probably watch the WWE and think that''s real too.

When "parents" in this country start actually parenting their children instead of dumping them into day care so they can work to buy their mansions and feed their hummers and actually spend time with their kids (you might need to look this concept up in history) and do quality things with them, not send them into a ring to do a death match, then perhaps the children in this society might grow up to actually contribute something other than numbers on the welfare and prison rosters. What a joke this is.

[nycsense]

It doesn''t surprise me that this is going on in the MidWest...which is chock-full of redneck retards who think this is perfectly acceptable. I am a man who grew up in a rough neighborhood in New York City, where you basically had to fight to survive living there. If you didn''t fight, you would be branded a "punk" and you would be subject to relentless bullying from everyone else. I fought out of neccesity. Now, I can''t even watch the ultimate fighting matches because it reminds me too much of what I witnessed growing up. This is not a "sport", this is barbarism, and anyone thinking anything different should have their head examined, or at least question their morality. I don''t need a doctor to tell me that a 6 year old''s body will not be able to withstand that level of punishment without some lasting injuries. The parents who allow this should have their children taken away from them and be psychologically evaluated by social services. If you want to teach your children to defend themselves, then place them in a martial arts school. There they will learn self defence and self discipline. Fight only when you have to, not to entertain others. This country is filled with friggin retards.

[gwagener]

So I was having dinner at a restraunt/sports bar and ultimate fighting was on several of the TVs. The sound was down on the TVs. At first, I didn''t know what I was watching. There were two muscular young men, one behind the other pictured from the top half, so I saw no cloths. The man behind was thrusting forward over and over. OMG! Is this gay porn? Then the man in front hits the man beind in the face. OMG! Is this S&M gay porn? Then the camera zooms out and I see that it was ultimate fighting.
Ultimate fighting is the gayest "sport" around, beating out body building hands down.
Teenagers getting into ultimate fighting is a good strategy for letting closeted gay teens hook up.
As for closeted gay men, I suppose it lets them pretend that the wood is from the hot girls who carry the signs with the round number.

[rudy654-2009]

"But the mixed martial art sport often derided as "human cockfighting" is branching out."

This should be considered child abuse, just as it is considered human cruelty to use animals for such "sport."

[questionnews]

I can just see this as a great excuse for child abusers. "I was just helping him train for his next fight. I didn''''t realize he was unconsious. I just thought he was being weak, so I kept on hitting him".

Posted by kaviz at 11:21 AM : Mar 27, 2008

Having flash backs?? I can sympathize with you. My little sister was pretty tough gal too.

[johnstossel]

Hurry, call Michael Vick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!