Comments on: Starbucks Must Give Baristas $100M In Tips

Calif. Judge Rules Tip Money Should Not Have Been Shared With Supervisors

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by thgdriver March 21, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
and now they might have a $100M bill to pay. The "little guys" might have won this battle, but a lot more "little guys" will lose the war if Starbucks goes bankrupt.

Posted by erichsh

So you think it''s OK for the little guy to subsidize a managers pay while the big Company rakes in 672 million in profits on 9.4 billion in revenues? Come on, you can''t want to keep a thief in business that bad.
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by samseventy7 March 21, 2008 12:47 PM EDT
I am really not surprised that a company as big as Starbucks is too cheap to pay their managers out of their own pockets. So they rob the hardest working one to pay those that get to feel priviledged for just showing up. Shame on you Starbucks!!!!
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by gronamox-2009 March 21, 2008 12:46 PM EDT
Don''t ya love Starbucks? It isn''t fair to shift supervisors if they don''t get a share of the tips. What are they nuts? It isn''t fair that you don''t pay them more you f----g a------s. I hope they go broke. And all the fifty million clones that blight our landscape will wink out. Goodnight Moon. Cheap ***.
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by inventagod March 21, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
Supervisors?
Taking a cut of employee wages?
Where did they learn THAT one?
Congress?
Shame on $tarbuck$!
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by Renegade.Rivers March 21, 2008 12:38 PM EDT
Starbucks is struggling as it is, and now they might have a $100M bill to pay. The "little guys" might have won this battle, but a lot more "little guys" will lose the war if Starbucks goes bankrupt.

Posted by erichsh

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So what let them go under, if their poor policies, and management cost them the ballgame then so be it. you get what you pay for, or as my Grandmother used to say, "The road to he11 is paved with good intentions."
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by mrvolleyba11 March 21, 2008 12:35 PM EDT
Displeased i do angree that if the place is so busy that the manager/supervisors then start serving customer that they should share or keep their own tips. but if pooled their share is only a portion of the time they actually servered. if they helped for 1 hour they shouldn''t share equally in a pool of tips earned for an 8 hour shift!
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by mrvolleyba11 March 21, 2008 12:31 PM EDT
Displeased the pit bosses are on the floor (monitoring the dealers/action) but they do not earn any tips. except at steve wynn''s property! it never seemed to be an issue before at any of his other properties but some how is there! management needs to stay out of telling employees how they "HAVE" to handle THEIR tips!!!
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by erichsh March 21, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
Starbucks is struggling as it is, and now they might have a $100M bill to pay. The "little guys" might have won this battle, but a lot more "little guys" will lose the war if Starbucks goes bankrupt.
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by displeased March 21, 2008 12:28 PM EDT
it is obvious you''''ve never work a minimum wage job and really needed or depended on your tips to make a living!!!
Posted by mrvolleyba11

I''ve worked several restaurants making $2 on hour and very good tips, for several years. We never shared with managers, but managers never worked the floor unless it was an emergency. It depends on the situation. If a manger is required to work the floor and provide service and then provide additional time for their "management" duties on top of that, they should keep the tips they earn. If they don''t work the floor, then they shouldn''t "steal" tips they didn''t earn.
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by mrvolleyba11 March 21, 2008 12:27 PM EDT
Displeased; additionally "management" (and supervisors) are not considered to be in tipped positions because they do not "serve" the customers. Some supervisors can be be "servers" but supervise over other servers and in this case that would entitle them to "pooled tips".

management has no business even being involved in the tips, the workers/servers should decide in advance if they are going to pool tips and split or keep your own! if i am working with slackers then i would say keep what you make but as a guy (banquet server) women do make the most tips in such case I would go for pooling! ...let them sweet talk and flirt with the customers and i''ll do all the haulin and cleanin (while they rake it in)! :-)
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by pollroller1 March 21, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
It amazes me at the number of Starbucks stores I see. Seems like they are on every street corner. I never cared much for their coffee. I like Folgers myself.
Now that''s good coffee.
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by thgdriver March 21, 2008 12:24 PM EDT
I was eating at a Texas Roadhouse restaurant, I was still eating and they started to sweep the floor right next to my table. They close at, 11 it was 8, so why the hurry?

When I was leaving the manager asked if everything was OK? I told him I did not finish my meal because I preferred not to eat dust from his floor. I did not have to pay and they gave me a credit card for $50.00 to come back.

That is the managers job and they should and in most cases do, make more money then the waiters/waitresses.
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by displeased March 21, 2008 12:22 PM EDT
the same thing happened or is happening at "Wynn''''s" in Las vegas. they are taking the dealers tips and giving some of it to pit bosses because they say the dealers are making more than them! never did I hear anybody say pay the pit bosses more!!!
Posted by mrvolleyba11

That is wrong. If the pit bosses aren''t on the floor earning tips, they shouldn''t be keeping any, regardless of what the other person is making. Another example of why sharing tips is a bad policy.
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by tilden7 March 21, 2008 12:21 PM EDT
"The decision today, in our view, represents an extreme example of an abuse of the class-action procedures in California''s courts,"

What B***S***!!!! The real "extreme example of...abuse" is ripping off the baristas by forcing them to pay the managers, rather that paying them yourself. You people are disgusting. I will be very happy to watch the court force you to pay every cent of that judgement!
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by mrvolleyba11 March 21, 2008 12:18 PM EDT
"Displeased"
...if your served by a manager then the manager is not managing!!! tips should not be divided by hourly salary! you sound like the kind of person that would pay your workers $2 an hour because they make good tips (i.e. counting their tips as part of their hourly wage) when tips very from day-to-day, week-to-week!!! it is obvious you''ve never work a minimum wage job and really needed or depended on your tips to make a living!!!
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by mrvolleyba11 March 21, 2008 12:13 PM EDT
thgdriver right on!

the same thing happened or is happening at "Wynn''s" in Las vegas. they are taking the dealers tips and giving some of it to pit bosses because they say the dealers are making more than them! never did I hear anybody say pay the pit bosses more!!!

and if that is the case probably ALL cocktail waitress''s earn more than the supervisors!!!

Corporate policy: let''s not cut into the millions & billions of dollars of our profits to pay supervisors more when we can steal it from the (defenseless) people in the lowest pay scale!!!
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by easeup-2009 March 21, 2008 12:10 PM EDT
Why the hell do you tip the slacker who pours you a cup of coffee?
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by griking March 21, 2008 12:10 PM EDT
If me the customer leaves a person a tip for great service then I expect THAT person to get the tip. To divide tips between all the staff defeats the purpose of tipping and makes me less likely to tip at all.
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by jdclueless31088 March 21, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
I stopped buying Starbucks last year because they don''t support our military and now this...glad I stopped buying from them...shame on them..now I know I made the right choice...Boycott all their products.
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by thgdriver March 21, 2008 12:06 PM EDT
I''''m not certain but I''''m guessing Starbucks managers don''''t make much more than the baristas.

Posted by Displeased

It''s Starbucks responsibility to pay their managers more, thats why they are managers. We have the same law in my state. Starbucks was clearly braking the law.

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