Comments on: Fla. Power Grid Snafu Causes Major Outages
Glitch Sends Blackouts Cascading Through State's Power Grid, Affects Up To 3 Million
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- Uh, the "resident ispectors" at Turkey Point Nuke Plant assure us nothing wrong there, all is just Peachy Keen, folks. They "inspect" all the time.
Yeah: You mean, like the "resident inspector" at that MEAT PACKING PLANT in Calif., which supplies cow meat to MILLIONS of American School Kids, & to Senior Citizens feeding programs?
Gee! Isn''t it terrific that Homeland Security tells us it wasn''t TERRORISTS? I mean, BUSH says "We haven''tbeen attacked domestically since 9/11"!
And even if we HAVE been attacked since 9/11, the BUSH Regime would COVER IT UP, keep it SECRET, like they have everything else! (3 Oil Refinery EXPLOSIONS & FIRES, so far, since 9/11, & we are supposed to believe that all 3 Explosions & Fires at such vital targets as OIL REFINERIES, were "ACCIDENTS"? ALL 3??
Even if we ARE attacked in the near Future (i.e., BEFORE the Presidential Election), theBush Regime sure ss HELL won''t tell the MEDIA, or the American PEOPLE!! (Well, maybe they''ll tell their buddies over at FOX NEWS, Karl Rove or Rupert Murdock or Tony Snow)
If the Gov''t. repeats a "BIG LIE" often enough, & get the NEWS MEDIA to also repeat it, WE WIN!
Remember: They told the people living near THREE MILE ISLAND, that it was perfectly "SAFE" too! - Reply to this comment
- SNAFU - Situation Normal, All ******* Up
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- CBS has now changed the headline to a more appropriate one.
Concerning reliability & Utility efficiency. There are federal standards that have not changed much in decades about how many spinning reserves and how much back-up high voltage transmission you need. Something did not work - or something is not right in this case. - Reply to this comment
- Power companies are more efficiently run now than ever through privatization. For those who are unhappy about blackouts, you need to know that redundancy and maintenance in a power system is inefficient. All you get for all that is reliability. Where is the money in that? You''ll still consume as much, as you''ll do the laundry when the power comes back on, and the fridge and AC will work just as hard to remove all that heat that''s built up. So it''s more efficient, and the bottom line of the utility is lower than it''s ever been
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- The headline is very misleading:
I currently work in the Nuclear Power industry (not in Florida), and prior to that worked in coal fired power plants. When I left work this afternoon it was with the understanding that Turkey Point (both reactors) had tripped as a result of the loss of the transmission lines needed to transmit the power to the state of Florida.
The Turkey Point Power Station also has 3 coal fired power plants; and they also shut down for the same reason.
This outage had nothing to do with the nuclear plants; other than they were affected. Nuclear and fossil plants are well designed to safely handle this type of loss of transmission and safely trip offline.
Transmission line failures, for various reasons, are not that uncommon; nor that they cause isolated power plants to trip.
What is uncommon is that their were not sufficient redundant back-up lines in service to maintain power to most of the area and maintain most power plants to stay online (to have all the Turkey Point plants - fossil and nuclear trip due to lack of transmission lines is quite the accomplishment - and not in a good way).
What is wrong with our transmission line infrastructure? That is the real question. - Reply to this comment
- "Doesn''''t anyone ask tough questions anymore?"
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Not if they want to keep their jobs. Did you know that the seating in the White House pressroom is arranged so conservative news organizations are in front, PBS in the back? They won''t get called on/an interview if they don''t play ball. And if they don''t get called on/an interview they can''t be a journalist. - Reply to this comment
- The headline is very misleading:
I currently work in the Nuclear Power industry (not in Florida), and prior to that worked in coal fired power plants. When I left work this afternoon it was with the understanding that Turkey Point (both reactors) had tripped as a result of the loss of the transmission lines needed to transmit the power to the state of Florida.
The Turkey Point Power Station also has 3 coal fired power plants; and they also shut down for the same reason.
This outage had nothing to do with the nuclear plants; other than they were affected. Nuclear and fossil plants are well designed to safely handle this type of loss of transmission and safely trip offline.
Transmission line failures, for various reasons, are not that uncommon; nor that they caused isolated power plants to trip.
What is uncommon is that their were not sufficient redundant back-up lines in service to maintain power to most of the area and maintain most power plants to stay online (to have all the Turkey Point plants - fossil and nuclear trip due to lack of transmission lines is quite the accomplishment - and not in a good way). - Reply to this comment
- Keith, I believe I saw on navytimes.com a couple of days ago that they are getting ready to decommission that last diesel sub next year. It has probably just been sitting next to a pier for several years anyway
I was a Navy nuclear trained machinist on a sub several years ago. Nuclear is the way to go - sorry Floydzepp. Chernobyl could not happen in the USA as it was a graphite reactor which can burn. That is the exact reason why US nuclear plants are not a graphite moderated core. We use pressurized water or boiling water reactors.
The anti-nuclear argument in the USA is strictly one of fear. Go ahead, raise your hand if you have never give it a second thought about getting an xray at the dr or dentist? Fly on a plane? Lived in a house with a radon problem? All of these things that we dont give a second thought to absolutely expose us to increased radiation levels. Commercial nuclear programs in the USA are extremely safe - it is time to stop the fear mongering. - Reply to this comment
- An equipment malfunction in a substation near Miami disabled two power distribution lines between Miami and Daytona Beach, and in response, the Turkey Point nuclear plant south of Miami stopped operating around 1 p.m.
As you cansee, that IS the way it happened
Posted by mikebeat1 at 06:58 PM : Feb 26, 2008
I always believe everything I read on the internet, in the news and definitely what my government tells me.
Why do we continually accept this *** that is spoonfed us through press releases and paid PR people who''s job it is to hide the truth and protect the company? Doesn''t anyone ask tough questions anymore? - Reply to this comment
- Doesn''t take much to shut us down. Just turn off the electricity.
Two questions:
Can we get by with no nuclear power at all?
Do we have any subs that aren''t powered by nuclear power?
Thank you. - Reply to this comment
