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[sigotratando]

I noticed you avoided the questions.

[jankebenz]

But no where in the verse you cited does it use the word "hate". YOU supplied thatPosted by sigotratando at 07:21 PM : Feb 28, 2008

Sorry,but God haters are of the word, plain and simple,you either love him, or hate him .Legalism or political correctness won,t save anyone

New American Standard Bible ()1995)
There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: Prov 6:16

New American Standard Bible ()1995)
"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. John 15:18

New American Standard Bible ()1995)
A righteous man hates falsehood, But a wicked man acts disgustingly and shamefully.Prov 13:5

many more references to God and or truth haters in scriptures if you want to look

[sigotratando]

But no where in the verse you cited does it use the word "hate". YOU supplied that. And hating is a sin, which puts God in a moral dilemma if He loves everyone enough to sacrifice his Son for us to accept or not, in a time when the soul is ready & recognizes its situation.

You have judged that a person that you don''t *recognize* in your camp according to your understanding of a God with infinite measures (that we cannot possibly know but that He judges by) is against God?

If you agree that everyone''s walk with God is a personal walk, & that His Word ministers unto their souls as those souls require, then can you also agree that there might be camps with people who share your soul''s needs & others whose soul''s focus on different needs?

Can you be sure that at some point in time you, yourself, are not working against God? Is falsely representing God''s grace & love type of arrogance, or is it simple disdain for the immensity of His grace?

[jankebenz]

But you *did* judge, by referring to someone or some people here as God haters. It was a conclusion you felt compelled to publish in the open. Do you retract this statement?

Posted by sigotratando at 06:05 PM : Feb 28, 2008

Then I am just reiterating who the bible judges as God haters. Something akin to calling a person who tells lies a liar. The action leads to reaction

[sigotratando]

Therefore, somewhere along the line, you have concluded/judged that someone/some people here are against God, AND that anyone who isn''t working with God at some point in time, likewise, must hate god.

[jankebenz]

Matthw 12:30 lists God haters,

American King James Version
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.

People''s New Testament

12:30 The two kingdoms of Satan and of Christ are opposed. No neutrality is possible. He that is not for me is against me.

[sigotratando]

I won''t judge,
Posted by jankebenz

But you *did* judge, by referring to someone or some people here as God haters. It was a conclusion you felt compelled to publish in the open. Do you retract this statement?

[jankebenz]

Perhaps, then, you could list who you have judged to hate God?

Posted by sigotratando at 05:29 PM : Feb 28, 2008

I won''t judge,but Romans 1:18 says,"the wrath of God is being revealed from heavan against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness".Verse 28 says "futhermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind to do what ought not to be done." Read for yourself what is in store for those who are against God.

[sigotratando]

The more God haters posts I read..
Posted by jankebenz

Perhaps, then, you could list who you have judged to hate God?

[jankebenz]

The more God haters posts I read,the more I can see how the descriptions from Romans1 18-30 are applicable. I had copied several of the descriptions here,but then decided to erase them. The battle between good and evil is heating up,the outcome was known before it started.