Comments on: Bush Will Veto Ban On Torture

McCain, Once Tortured Himself, Joins White House To Oppose Bill Prohibiting Waterboarding

[cofmanaaron]

George Bush thinks himself above the Constitution. Between him and Huckabee''s assertion that the constitution should be amended to agree with the Bible, as well as past abuses by republicans, the pattern is clear: the republican agenda is autocracy, not democracy or even a republic.

hoygie4:

Are you high on something?

[mcvet]

Typical Fascist. Instead of saying this is what the American People want, this pathetic loser attacks the representatives of THE PEOPLE. He is no more the president of this nation than is Mickey Mouse. He''s a pathetic Dictator completely out of touch with the PEOPLE he''s SUPPOSED to represent. Sieg Heil Bush!!!

[cofmanaaron]

As if we needed a reminder, the main thing that this story demonstrates is that republicans and people who vote for them have no sense of morality, no sense of right and wrong. Its a slippery slope from torturing your enemy to engaging in rape campaigns like the Kenyans. You can justify your actions by saying ''they are the enemy'', but in truth its still black and white. Torturing people is morally wrong, but that is what Bush and the republicans want to do, they are that kind of people.

hoygie4 wrote:

"Oh bullshyyyt. Yer all fer the nationalistic pride of appeasements, but not fer standing up fer yerselves? C''''mon. Wake up. Its not a sitcom here."

You mean like blindly supporting and following a President or political party instead of making up your own mind?

hoygie4 wrote:

"Oh bullshyyyt. Yer all fer the nationalistic pride of appeasements, but not fer standing up fer yerselves? C''''mon. Wake up. Its not a sitcom here."

It''s one thing to stand up for yourself, and another to ignore laws while "standing up for yourself".

And those laws aren''t just US based laws, but International Laws/Treaty''s etc.

Torture is illegal - and water boarding is a form of torture.

And let''s not forget that there have been other prisoner abuses that also constitute torture - and people have been killed while undergoing that torture by CIA and other agents employed by the US Government.

[slpdisk]

Set the bar and our enemies will follow our standards and worse. Our recent administration has taken this good countries name through the mudd,one too many times,illegal wars,illegal wire tapping,torture,challenging the constitution.You all should be ashamed.Peace

[poopusbuttus]

DONT YOU IDIOTS KNOW IT"S VALENTINES DAY? GO GET SOME PUUSSY......GO TAKE CARE OF YOUR WIVES......

[denn034]

Shame on Bush.

sammiers wrote:

"Waterboarding...torture? C''''mon people we are talking about national security, these are terrorists we are talking about. How else would you like us to get the information that we need, does rubbing their belly''''s and whispering sweet nothings in their ear sound good? C''''mon people get it together it''''s not like we are pulling their teeth out with pliers. Heck their not even really drowning, they are only getting the sensation of drowning...."

It was considered to be a form of torture by the US who prosecuted a Japanese Officer after World War 2 for water boarding civilians and US troops.

It was also designated "illegal" by US Generals during the Vietnam war, after US troops were discovered using it.

"Accidental" death during water boarding is also relatively common.