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McCain, Once Tortured Himself, Joins White House To Oppose Bill Prohibiting Waterboarding
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- The only information Poopusbuttushead comprehends is what he is TOLD like a blind sheep, by the Neocon regime! He hasn''t an original thought in his head!
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- poopusbuttus wrote:
"The economy? Or, the security of the country?"
And GW Bush has failed in all of the above.
Republican morons claim that because there hasn''t been an attack on US soil since 9/11, that GW Bush has succeeded.
The fact is, that after the first attack on the WTC in 1993, there was a large gap between the next attack on US soil.
But it doesn''t mean that Clinton succeeded.
GW Bush has absolutely failed to make this country safe - his policies and invasion of Iraq has created more enemies and lost us more friends then any other President.
And attacks against overseas US targets have increased thanks to his policies.
GW Bush has succeeded in one thing - ensuring that the US will remain a target for decades to come. - Reply to this comment
- So, having said that, since you hate Bush but yet, you''''re an expert at torturing and its results, are you privy to all the intelligence to match up what a torture suspect tells them?
Of course you''''re not. And, of course none of you dummy libs are. You hate Bush. That''''s what drives your idiotic messages/
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Posted by poopusbuttus at 06:41 PM : Feb 14, 2008
Military experts have already testified that information gathered by torture is seldom viable. Don''t you ever read anything? - Reply to this comment
- Posted by poopusbuttus at 06:42 PM : Feb 14, 2008
What does World War II have to do with our current IDIOT IN CHIEF? You are so into changing the subject when you get yourself caught in the trap of your support of the Neocon regime like a blind sheep, you just change the subject! - Reply to this comment
- poopusbuttus wrote:
"Of course you''''re not. And, of course none of you dummy libs are. You hate Bush. That''''s what drives your idiotic messages"
No, I dislike stupidity, and that''s why I dislike GW Bush and people such as yourselves.
And in answer to your questions, as I stated earlier, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed claimed - after being waterboarded (aka tortured) - that he personally killed Daniel Pearl.
That is *known* to be false - and his claims are on record.
Of course, that''s probably gone straight above your head because you are unable to comprehend facts. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by poopusbuttus at 06:41 PM : Feb 14, 2008
You love Bush. That''s what drives your idiotic messages - Reply to this comment
- Waterboarding...torture? C''mon people we are talking about national security, these are terrorists we are talking about. How else would you like us to get the information that we need, does rubbing their belly''s and whispering sweet nothings in their ear sound good? C''mon people get it together it''s not like we are pulling their teeth out with pliers. Heck their not even really drowning, they are only getting the sensation of drowning....
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- poopusbuttus wrote:
"No, MCDUMMY -- It is not ok to torture people. Remember now, they do it for a different reason. They torture people because they dont agree with their politics. Dude, it''''s the middle east. What do you expect?"
Well, you stated that it was ok to torture people when it concerned "national security" - and "national security" can be a relatively broad term that could result in torture for different political views, different religious views, etc.
For example, President Karimov of Uzbekistan has had people boiled alive because of "national security" and Iran has tortured people because of "national security" - and that''s all right with you?
So, basically, you support the torture of people for religious or political points of view - as long as it is done with the "national security" in mind. - Reply to this comment
- No Sir, his first obligation is to carry out the will of the people, even in WAR!!! That''''s why he has to get the approval of Congress within 90 days, stupid!
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Posted by RowdyTexan2
Riiiiiight. So, if the will of the American people was to pull out of WWII, we should have pulled out?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Dont be a dummy ROWDYDUMMY. I know it''s hard, but try not too.... - Reply to this comment
- Fact is, if you torture someone to extract specific information, sooner or later they will tell you what they think you want to here - just so it will stop.
Heck, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed even admitted to killing Daniel Pearl - something we know that he had no involvement in.
I suspect if poopusbuttus was tortured, he/she/it would admit to having killed JFK.
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Posted by mcdazz
MCDUMMY -- So, you seem to be the expert in torture matters. By chance, were you ever tortured? Do you really know that the terrorists will claim anything just to make it stop?
And if so, what do you think the agents that are torturing will do? Do you think that with the information they have gathered, will corroborate the information they gleemed from waterboarding and either except it, or discard it?
So, having said that, since you hate Bush but yet, you''re an expert at torturing and its results, are you privy to all the intelligence to match up what a torture suspect tells them?
Of course you''re not. And, of course none of you dummy libs are. You hate Bush. That''s what drives your idiotic messages/ - Reply to this comment
- The economy? Or, the security of the country?
Posted by poopusbuttus at 06:22 PM : Feb 14, 2008
Spare us your paranoid delusions about G.W. bogus war on terror and how safe he''s made America
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www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-01-24-army-study_x.htm - 52k - Cached - Similar pages
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www.securitycornermexico.com/index.php?option=com_ - Reply to this comment
- Wong ROWDYDUMMY. Self Preservation is the most important issue. That is what the President (if faced with that issue) is most responible for.
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Posted by poopusbuttus at 06:36 PM : Feb 14, 2008
No Sir, his first obligation is to carry out the will of the people, even in WAR!!! That''s why he has to get the approval of Congress within 90 days, stupid! - Reply to this comment
- Could you imagine if Bush plucked the Senators out of the Dummy Democrat side of the Senate floor like Saddam Hussein did and had them either disappear, or tortured.
Your dummy democrat head would explode if he did that. Wouldnt it?
HAHAHHAA. You Jive Turkey. You''''re a dummy.....
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Posted by poopusbuttus at 06:26 PM : Feb 14, 2008
Your argument is assinine! The US obviously supported him by giving him the mustard gas to do it with! - Reply to this comment
- Both, Dummy! If he''''s smart enough to be president he should know how to preserve our national security AND our economy at the same time!
OBVIOUSLY, Dubya wasn''''t smart enought to do that!
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Posted by RowdyTexan2
Wong ROWDYDUMMY. Self Preservation is the most important issue. That is what the President (if faced with that issue) is most responible for. - Reply to this comment
- Rafterman1 wrote:
"Not to mention his post doesn''''t even address what I wrote about - the uselessness of torture in gathering intelligence."
Indeed. I suspect poopusbuttus isn''t capable of entering into a discussion about the problems associated with extracting information through the use of torture.
Fact is, if you torture someone to extract specific information, sooner or later they will tell you what they think you want to here - just so it will stop.
Heck, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed even admitted to killing Daniel Pearl - something we know that he had no involvement in.
I suspect if poopusbuttus was tortured, he/she/it would admit to having killed JFK. - Reply to this comment
- The economy? Or, the security of the country?
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Posted by poopusbuttus at 06:22 PM : Feb 14, 2008
Both, Dummy! If he''s smart enough to be president he should know how to preserve our national security AND our economy at the same time!
OBVIOUSLY, Dubya wasn''t smart enought to do that! - Reply to this comment
- Do you think the THING wants to go before the International War Crimes Tribunal and tell those judges the same thing he has been telling the citizens of the USA, Congress, and the other countries on Earth. What will his defense be-"I was only following orders from the Party, I was just a puppet." The THING will have a very difficult time of spinning, spinning, spinning his innocence.
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- So you think it was ok for the Taliban or even Iran to torture people?
Posted by MCDUMMY
No, MCDUMMY -- It is not ok to torture people. Remember now, they do it for a different reason. They torture people because they dont agree with their politics. Dude, it''s the middle east. What do you expect?
Could you imagine if Bush plucked the Senators out of the Dummy Democrat side of the Senate floor like Saddam Hussein did and had them either disappear, or tortured.
Your dummy democrat head would explode if he did that. Wouldnt it?
HAHAHHAA. You Jive Turkey. You''re a dummy..... - Reply to this comment
- poopusbuttus wrote:
"Absolutely. And I will ask you this TAKEBACKDUMMY -- What is the job of the President of the United States of America? Or, for that fact, what is the job of the President of any country?"
So you think it was ok for the Taliban or even Iran to torture people?
What about boiling people alive? Do you condone that as well?
GW Bush does - just ask President Karimov of Uzbekistan, who GW Bush has supported with well over $500 million of our tax dollars. - Reply to this comment
- Correct. And that includes, protecting the lives of American citizens here, and abroad. That is the most important factor.
Let me give you an example. If the foremost factor of the American people was the economy and they voted for President based on that issue, then, we were attacked, such as we were on 9/11. What takes presidence?
The economy? Or, the security of the country? - Reply to this comment
