Comments on: Bush Will Veto Ban On Torture

McCain, Once Tortured Himself, Joins White House To Oppose Bill Prohibiting Waterboarding

[antizion]

I meant to write 100 million.

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

Interesting reading...

[candide777]

How ironic that the man who promised to "restore Honor" to the White House has brought more shame and discrace upon this entire country than it has seen in my entire life. Bush makes Nixon look as pure and pristine as Jesus Christ.

[antizion]

Bush should be hung by the neck until dead for war crimes just like the US hung Japanese soldiers after WWII ended for water boarding US POWS. Any congress or government official that tolerates this should be right Bush/Cheney on the gallows.

The Bush family is being sued by the jews for war crimes during WWII (that 1000 million to IG Farbin for 5 death camps) and the reason they lost assets under the trading with the enemies act in 1942. The son AND grandson of a traitor. Got real elections? Didn''t think so.

Blackmailed into stealing oil for Israel through the Rothschild pipeline? You better believe it and the Bush family has BILLIONS to lose.

[mrassekh]

"Bush will veto ban on torture"

Are Bush and Jesus still on speaking terms?

[hungry1968]

hoygie4:

Are you high on something?

Posted by mcdazz at 08:13 PM : Feb 14, 2008





That''s donnie900 / coffeeguy.

Of course he''s on something.

[taotxzen]

News to CBS:

House finds Bolten, Miers in contempt of Congress
By Alexander Bolton and Klaus Marre

Posted: 02/14/08 02:21 PM [ET]

The House voted Thursday to hold White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers in contempt of Congress for refusing to testify before a panel investigating the firing of several United States attorneys.

Ahead of the vote, Republicans had walked out in an effort to show that they want to work on a permanent update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) rather than be part of a %u201Cpartisan fishing expedition,%u201D as House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) put it.

The contempt vote raises the stakes between the White House and Congress in the battle over the fired U.S. attorneys and could set up a constitutional showdown between the legislative and executive branches.

The matter will now be referred to the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia.

If the fight comes to a head without a compromise having been reached, it could pit Congress%u2019s power to hold White officials in contempt against the president%u2019s right to assert executive privilege.

Democrats passed two resolutions through the adoption of a single rule, a procedural tactic that limited the time of debate, angering Republicans. One resolution holds Bolten and Miers in contempt. The second sets the stage for a civil suit the House would file against the administration to compel it to force Bolten and Miers to testify.

[cofmanaaron]

cbscrash07:

So you believe that torture is, in the words of *** Cheney, a good thing? Congress is representing the PEOPLE, because most of us actually do have a sense of right and wrong, and are disgusted thinking that our government would cross the line of torturing prisoners. Don''t you think this is just an invitation for horrible atrocities committed against our troops in a future war?

[Syndicate]

The Democrats should be ashamed. I can see through thier political games. Can you? This all to make Bush look bad. this congress seems to relish in sending Bush stuff they know he will veto. the seem to even look for things to add to bills to get Bush to veto it. Are they so impotent that the only way they can look good is to get the president to veto everything they pass? It seems like the Democrats can only unite for things Bush will veto. How pathetic. I will be happy next year when we chage them out. I only wish we could change all of them. Republic and Democrats. Perhaps electric dog collars would be better the lower the aproval rating the higher the frequency of electric shock.

[cofmanaaron]

It is too bad that there is still such a large proportion of republican congressman in the house and the Senate. They aren''t thinking about what is right or wrong, or how to benefit the american people, it is ''how do I get George Bush more power'' ''how do I protect him and his actions from any sense of justice'' ''how can I further the morally deficient republican agenda''. Otherwise, Congress might actually be able to do what is necessary, impeach.

[rebelscout]

Hey hoygie4,crawl back under your rock and take your Nazi buddies with you! Torture does not work or the military would use it. I am a vet and it was ABSOLUTELY A CRIMINAL OFFENSE punishable under the UCMJ!!!

[cofmanaaron]

George Bush thinks himself above the Constitution. Between him and Huckabee''s assertion that the constitution should be amended to agree with the Bible, as well as past abuses by republicans, the pattern is clear: the republican agenda is autocracy, not democracy or even a republic.

hoygie4:

Are you high on something?

[mcvet]

Typical Fascist. Instead of saying this is what the American People want, this pathetic loser attacks the representatives of THE PEOPLE. He is no more the president of this nation than is Mickey Mouse. He''s a pathetic Dictator completely out of touch with the PEOPLE he''s SUPPOSED to represent. Sieg Heil Bush!!!

[cofmanaaron]

As if we needed a reminder, the main thing that this story demonstrates is that republicans and people who vote for them have no sense of morality, no sense of right and wrong. Its a slippery slope from torturing your enemy to engaging in rape campaigns like the Kenyans. You can justify your actions by saying ''they are the enemy'', but in truth its still black and white. Torturing people is morally wrong, but that is what Bush and the republicans want to do, they are that kind of people.

hoygie4 wrote:

"Oh bullshyyyt. Yer all fer the nationalistic pride of appeasements, but not fer standing up fer yerselves? C''''mon. Wake up. Its not a sitcom here."

You mean like blindly supporting and following a President or political party instead of making up your own mind?

hoygie4 wrote:

"Oh bullshyyyt. Yer all fer the nationalistic pride of appeasements, but not fer standing up fer yerselves? C''''mon. Wake up. Its not a sitcom here."

It''s one thing to stand up for yourself, and another to ignore laws while "standing up for yourself".

And those laws aren''t just US based laws, but International Laws/Treaty''s etc.

Torture is illegal - and water boarding is a form of torture.

And let''s not forget that there have been other prisoner abuses that also constitute torture - and people have been killed while undergoing that torture by CIA and other agents employed by the US Government.

[slpdisk]

Set the bar and our enemies will follow our standards and worse. Our recent administration has taken this good countries name through the mudd,one too many times,illegal wars,illegal wire tapping,torture,challenging the constitution.You all should be ashamed.Peace

[poopusbuttus]

DONT YOU IDIOTS KNOW IT"S VALENTINES DAY? GO GET SOME PUUSSY......GO TAKE CARE OF YOUR WIVES......

[denn034]

Shame on Bush.

sammiers wrote:

"Waterboarding...torture? C''''mon people we are talking about national security, these are terrorists we are talking about. How else would you like us to get the information that we need, does rubbing their belly''''s and whispering sweet nothings in their ear sound good? C''''mon people get it together it''''s not like we are pulling their teeth out with pliers. Heck their not even really drowning, they are only getting the sensation of drowning...."

It was considered to be a form of torture by the US who prosecuted a Japanese Officer after World War 2 for water boarding civilians and US troops.

It was also designated "illegal" by US Generals during the Vietnam war, after US troops were discovered using it.

"Accidental" death during water boarding is also relatively common.