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- "What is so bizarre about it??" Posted by noseonurface
Bush; "Dear Lord, I am about to lie and cause a war that will surely result in untold death and destruction, so I wonder if you would kindly look the other way while I proceed to bear false witness, covet my neighbors "anything else" kill, and steal"
Lord "OK, but just this 935 times"... - Reply to this comment
- "a changed heart".....something else that the majority of these posters no nothing about.
Posted by noseonurface at 11:19 PM : Jan 29, 2008
If you believed this lie, you probably believed the other 935 too. - Reply to this comment
- "a changed heart".....something else that the majority of these posters no nothing about." Posted by noseonurface
Can a changed heart bring back the innocent victims, on both sides, that are dead, or otherwise suffering because of Bush''s lies?
Are we to simply dismiss them, because Bush fakes a "touchy-feely" moment with some people who would never be invited to have a meal at his house, and whose children, already having problems, will have to pay for his folly? They are still the dead and suffering, and more are added to their numbers each day, do you suggest that we should now pretend that this is all somehow OK?
Because Hitler Jr. says "I was a drunk", does that excuse his misdeeds, repair the economy, and undo the anti Muslim hatred intentionally stirred up in order to push his agenda? Does the world now say "Oh, so now we understand, you killed because you were a drunk, OK everything is cool now, carry on".
Not likely... - Reply to this comment
- What is so bizarre about it??
Posted by noseonurface at 11:23 PM : Jan 29, 2008
Speaking of moonbats. - Reply to this comment
- Bush claimed to have consulted his Father in Heaven before the war. Bizarre but true.
Posted by jerr11 at 10:51 PM : Jan 29, 2008
What is so bizarre about it?? - Reply to this comment
- Speaking of paranoia and breathtaking conclusions...
I don''t venture into these forums too often, but whenever I do I am struck with the ferocity that the left-wingers will strike at an assumed "strawman" target, as baseless as that target might be. For example, here we have curse914, who not only purports to know my policy position on a specific issue (Iraq), but then is presumptuous enough to go and attack said purported position by using phrases like "pigheaded", etc.
No, curse914, I think the Iraq war is/was a mistake.
However, when the lefties elevate policy differences, as well as differences of opinion, to the level of unbridled vitriolic hatred, and replace the concept of "I think" with "I know, and you''re an idiot for not agreeing with me", I have a problem with that.
Ask my about my viewpoints and I will respond and ask you about yours. Attacking me about my viewpoints, or pre-supposing what they may be, interjects a level of personal discourse that transcends whatever point was trying to be made along the line. - Reply to this comment
- Bush spoke to reporters after meeting privately with two men who have graduated from Jericho''s program and dealt with drug problems. During that session, which the White House allowed one reporter to attend, Bush spoke frankly about himself.
"I understand addiction, and I understand how a changed heart can help you deal with addiction," he told the two men.
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"Bush spoke frankly about himself"....something most of the narcissistic posters on here no nothing about.
"a changed heart".....something else that the majority of these posters no nothing about. - Reply to this comment
- Someone said: Every version of the ten commandments I have ever seen reads "Thou shalt not kill".
That''s the neat thing about the "Word of God". There are SO MANY DIFFERENT VERSIONS. You can pick and choose the one you like, and then do what it says, ignoring the others, and remain confident that you are doing "the Lord''s work"!
Certain groups have recently decided that they needed to change "kill" to "murder" to help transition all the "good little Christians" from believing in a peaceful, loving Christ ("Love one another", "turn the other cheek", etc.) into the more modern G.I. Jesus, who fights the "terrorists" so we can all be "saved" by stealing their oil. After they convince you that killing is OK, but murder isn''t, then they explain that "it''s not ''murder'' if it''s war, or if you''re killing ''bad people''", etc.
"Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war" becomes "Onward Christian soldiers, marching off to war". And that other drunk, singinrick, can happily join in the genocide of all the semitic peoples of the world. - Reply to this comment
- I thank you for at least expressing your sentiments accurately.
Posted by erichsh
I do try to post with the highest degree of accuracy I can, but my list is only a small sampling of the reasons for my sentiments.
My true sentiments re Bush and his cohort would not be printable without violating the rules here, in fact, they might even be too heavy for any publication in America. - Reply to this comment
- Bush is not a FORMER alcoholic. He''s into the sauce big time, right now. (Just ask Laura!) And alcohol abuse is only just ONE of his many mental problems. And he drank so much, for so long, that his brain does not work right. Billions of brain cells have been permanently destroyed. He''s so messed up that he can''t even construct a coherent sentence. If not for the little speaker in his ear, telling him what to say, he would never make any sense to anyone.
And let us never forget these words from president Gee Whiz Bush, the man admired by so many authoritarian crazies: "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It''s just a ********* piece of paper!"
How anyone could support that brain-dead, drunken megalomaniac is a mystery to me! - Reply to this comment
- "Not really Brian, that part was covered by the catch-all "outrageous rhetoric, baseless paranoia, blatant distortions, all culminating in breathtakingly bizarre and bitter conclusions about Bush and the Republican party" part of my post." Posted by erichsh
So, by this assertion, it seems you still believe that Saddam had WMDs, that warrantless wiretapping is either legal, or that Bush never used it, the atrocities at Abu Ghraib, never happened, Valerie Plame was not exposed, and that so far $1.6 trillion has not been squandered on a hostile military aggression, based on at least 935 lies?
I can see how truth can be outrageous to those who try to deny it. - Reply to this comment
- "But you left out the part about lying to foment war, illegally spying on Americans, authorizing torture, kidnapping, treason, looting our treasury, and a host of even worse things."
Posted by brianbwb
Not really Brian, that part was covered by the catch-all "outrageous rhetoric, baseless paranoia, blatant distortions, all culminating in breathtakingly bizarre and bitter conclusions about Bush and the Republican party" part of my post.
Fill in the blanks, as you started to do, and feel free to add more such contributions. Notwithstanding my obvious sarcasm, I thank you for at least expressing your sentiments accurately. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by erichsh at 10:25 PM : Jan 29, 2008
Interesting observations you made.
But somehow, you seem to miss one point.
Nobody made up those things about Bush.
Bush claimed to have consulted his Father in Heaven before the war. Bizarre but true.
And the 4000 Americans who died in Iraq are very real to their loved ones. Their deaths are not fictitious nor made up by liberal moonbats.
And the 935 lies. This is public record. Nobody made this up too.
I admit what''s happened to the Republican party is bizarre - Mark Foley, Larry Craig, Bush and his lies, but as they say, truth is stranger than fiction.
So nobody made these facts up. There''s no distortion.
If there''s any distortion, it''s you, trying to whitewash the crimes of the Bush/Cheney admin with your pseudo philosophical musings.
To repeat, the 4000 Americans who died in Iraq because of Bush''s lies are not fictitious, maybe they are to you, but not to their loved ones. - Reply to this comment
- I almost felt a smidgen of empathy for the man. Having dealt with so many addicts in prison (on a peer level) and having attended meetings (just to get out of my cell) I know that the first step is admitting you''re an addict. Why couldn''t he say it from the beginning? I think that because he still battles he still feels shame. Hopefully as a human being he can begin to accept responsibility ( third step?) and correct his mistakes. Unfortunatly he didn''t have this attack of conscience sooner and saved himself so much embarassment. My question is; why should funding be directed at religious involvment? Any recovering knows that your higher power might not be in a spiritual form but more earthly. I appreciate that this particular program is helping both recovering addicts and convicts but the funding could be used for other programs not based in a church basement. That way people that don''t feel comfortable in a church have an alternative.
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- "I applaud President Bushit for getting honest about his addictions..." Posted by wp4088
I realize that cocaine use is not necessarily an addiction, but leaving that part out is telling. - Reply to this comment
- Thou shall not murder..NEXT!!
Posted by underdogus at 09:50 PM : Jan 29, 2008
Wrong. Every version of the ten commandments I have ever seen reads "Thou shalt not kill".
Your attempt to rewrite the commandment is indicative of a willingness to break the commandment, then lie to say that the commandment didn''t cover your particular sin. - Reply to this comment
- "So now they can accuse Bush of being a bible-thumping dope pusher who believes in sky-fathers and wants to shove his hypocritical fascist-christian idiology in a drunken rage down their throats..." Posted by erichsh
We don''t need to, you said it so eloquently and accurately by yourself.
But you left out the part about lying to foment war, illegally spying on Americans, authorizing torture, kidnapping, treason, looting our treasury, and a host of even worse things. - Reply to this comment
- I must be a political *** to venture into this forum but so be it. When I saw the words "Bush", "faith", and "addiction" all in the same headline, I figured it would be the perfect storm with the moonbats. Like the physics concepts of "harmonic resonance" and "standing waves", these three words will oscillate together with the moonbats and peak to new highs (or, more accurately, sink to new lows) of outrageous rhetoric, baseless paranoia, blatant distortions, all culminating in breathtakingly bizarre and bitter conclusions about Bush and the Republican party.
Also, think of all the permutations that the moonbats can slice these words into! They hate Bush, they hate Christianity, and they''re all convinced that Bush is a crackhead alcoholic to begin with. So now they can accuse Bush of being a bible-thumping dope pusher who believes in sky-fathers and wants to shove his hypocritical fascist-christian idiology in a drunken rage down their throats.
Have at it boys and girls, knock yourself out. And please - throw a few insults my way while you''re at it, it''ll make me feel better. - Reply to this comment
- Thou shall not murder..NEXT!!
Posted by underdogus at 09:50 PM : Jan 29, 2008
Murder, kill, you think it makes any difference to those who died?
A pile of cra*p by any other name is still a pile of cra*p. - Reply to this comment
- As a recovering alcoholic myself, I see a big flaw in this mans thinking:(besides not knowing that the first step is to ADMIT you have a problem):honesty! It is as fundamental to recovery as the belief in a higher power and I don''t think that this man is capable of it.
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