Comments on: Girl Says Dad Died In Iraq To Win Contest

Mom Helped 6-Year-Old Make Up Lie About Her Father's Death To Win Hannah Montana Tickets

[rohink-2009]

justsane and nmsuip, I agree completely with both of your posts. We live in an age of it''s not my fault. Thankfully I was not raised that way.

[justsane-2009]

nmsuip--interesting that you brought up the comparison. i have posted on both these issues this week (far more than i like to admit), and when i tried to figure out why i felt so strongly about them, the answer that i came to was that they both have to do with personal responsibility and the code of conduct that goes with it. a mother should not teach her child that fabricating a false story to win a contest is acceptable. a group of young men should know better than to mess around with a wild animal, and further should respect the rules of any establishment that they are guests of, whether they paid for entry or not.

it has been disheartening to see how many people seem to fail to grasp those simple truths.

[robstrck]

Torturing it, in a sense, genetically.

bucktooth99,

What the hell are you talking about? How is it torturing them "genetically"? Rohink was right, you should have spent your money on fixing your teeth. It surely was wasted on your education.

[robstrck]

Posted by Nancy_Naive a
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Do you ever have anything constructive to add, or are you too busy trying to be clever?

mnsuip,

Good post.

[nmsuip]

Interesting times we live in!

From KDFW News:

"When [contest organizer Robin Caulfield] asked me if this [essay] was true, I told her no," Ceballos said. "We never said this was a true story. We do essays all the time. My daughter does essays at school all the time. It never did say it had to be true, but [Robin] said, ''That''s what we expected.''"

From a different story- the lawsuits that are likely to result from the tiger maulings at the San Francisco Zoo (CBS News):

"Inevitably, there are going to be lawsuits filed," Little said. "Even if they provoked the tiger, a reasonable person would believe that the tiger could not escape. That''s what you count on when you go to the zoo. You count on the idea that the animals cannot reach you."

So apparently in the U.S. today, it is not "reasonable" to assume:

1. You''re supposed to tell the truth.

2. You shouldn''t screw around with a 350 lb. tiger.

The absurdity is that we now have to specify such things.

[hypnotoad72]

Oh, that''s charming. NOT. Lying to see some modern day pop star whose past hasn''t been revealed yet? This is the 21st century, how many girls truly are pure?! They weren''t in 1987...

Bush didn''t cause this problem BTW. Neither did Clinton. If they tried to intervene with our degenerate media (that incidentally profits big-time by promoting sleeze in case anybody hadn''t noticed), everybody would whine "Keep government out of things, waaaaaaaaaaah!"

[erasmus6]

"Don''''t worry folks, when Bush is out of office and a Democrat is elected, we will regain our morality." posted by rohink

That depends on which Democrat you vote in.:)

[slackersmom]

From the Dallas Morning News (Caulfield is w/ Libby Lu, Ceballos is the mother of the child):

"Officials took the essay, which included no details about the father or his death, at face value and performed no background checks, Ms. Caulfield said. Ms. Ceballos told company officials that the girl''s father, Army Sgt. Jonathon Menjivar, had died in a roadside bombing April 17 in Iraq, Ms. Caulfield said. But Department of Defense records show that no one by the name Jonathon Menjivar has died in Iraq."

[rohink-2009]

bucktooth99

How sad for you.

[rohink-2009]

Don''t worry folks, when Bush is out of office and a Democrat is elected, we will regain our morality.

[formrusmcsgt]

I think parents need to spend more time raising decent human beings than encouraging celebrity worship.

Posted by rohink at 02:40 PM : Dec 30, 2007

Good point. Another might be getting back to teaching their children that being people of integrity matters more than materialism.

[rohink-2009]

If you can''t see how sick this country is without blaming it all on Bush, you are a lost cause.

[rohink-2009]

Posted by exCoachKen

Listen, I would have said the same thing if someone blamed this on Clinton. We are all responsible for our own actions. We are also responsible for raising decent human beings.

[rohink-2009]

I think parents need to spend more time raising decent human beings than encouraging celebrity worship.

[excoachken]

To robstrck: You are upset that people blame Bush for a kid''s lies and deception. Well, I seem to remember a President who got blamed for teens *** drive after an admirer gave him a bj. The question is--- Does the behavior of a President in public (lying us into a war) have more impact on our youth than receiving a very warm kiss from an adult admirer in private?

[rohink-2009]

bucktooth99

Maybe you should have used money spent on education to get your teeth fixed. Cause from what I''ve read, it was money wasted.

[johnshaft4]

Obviously, she was inspired by Bush''s Iraq WMD lies.

[rohink-2009]

sort of like George Bush eh? His base has pro'''' ''''bly no idea what his lies about WMD, yellowcake and wiretapping. outing agents, Osama and everything else, has put America up to....LOL (he had them do it to win the contest over terrorism)NOT.

Say or do anything to "win" right? National political credo these days.

Posted by b-easy63
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You''re right. Prior to 2000 we were all living in Eden. No lies, no dishonesty, no murder. Everyone living together in harmony.

[erasmus6]

"Where did these parents get the idea that parenting meant groveling before a child?" posted by formrusmcsgt


Yeah, like what the h-e-l-l happened anyways? Things have certainly gone downhill in parenting.

[formrusmcsgt]

Kids rule the roost these days. Mom & Dad run around like chickens with their head cut off trying to please them. "Yes, Princess. No, Princess.

Posted by Keithle1 at 01:37 PM : Dec 30, 2007

Not only true, but sad, disgysting, and insane as well.

Where did these parents get the idea that parenting meant groveling before a child?