Comments on: New Jersey Abolishes Death Penalty

Gov. Corzine Signs Bill Banning Capital Punishment; First State To Do So In Four Decades

[roger_inkart]

THE PROBLEM HERE is that you seem eager to condem and put your gripes on the table but when a solution is asked

Posted by libsluvsuvs at 06:50 PM : Dec 17, 2007

Fair enough. Firstly, we have to understand why in nations similar to ours (Australia, Canada, the UK, Germany, Japan) the crime rate is so astonishingly lower compared to ours. What is causing the crime in the US? What is it''s roots? What can be done we learn to make our society better and more like other nations who do not suffer the way we do? We need to start asking questions. We need to start examining our nation and why we have the problems we do.

There are no easy answers here. Murder and brutality is engrained in American culture. We must eliminate it. And the best way to start is to stop having the government killing people.

[libsluvsuvs]

Posted by roger_inkart at 06:50 PM : Dec 17, 2007
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i said point taken..now i want to hear the BENEFITS in keeping convicted CRIMINALS locked up for life.

[libsluvsuvs]

actually I am afraid to ask a bleeding heart liberal A SOLUTION TO OUR CRIME PROBLEM...they would just say LEGALIZE CRIME.

[mikefrmd]

Roger,

Isn''t that site a Anti Dealth penalty site?

[roger_inkart]

and are you aware of the current situation and problems with this small %????????????????????

Posted by libsluvsuvs at 06:41 PM : Dec 17, 2007

Very. And the statistics clearly demonstrate how utterly worthless the DP is, and how states that have it suffer higher murder rates then those that don''t.

Ironically, the murder rate is highest in the south. And there is where most executions have been carried out. In the Northeast the rate is much lower, and only 4 executions have been carried out since 2001 (compared to 901 in the south.)

[libsluvsuvs]

Posted by roger_inkart at 06:46 PM : Dec 17, 2007
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THE PROBLEM HERE is that you seem eager to condem and put your gripes on the table but when a solution is asked..those pro-ciminals would slither back into the sewers AND NOT GIVE ANY SOLUTIONS

[mikefrmd]

"Really? I don''''t think so. I think that actually nails a bunch of your crowd. But hey, believe whatever you need to believe to justify your love and obssession of murder and brutality. You would anyway."

Who said we love murder and brutality....who said we enjoyed the death penalty being carried out. Its just that some of us believe that when you knowingly commit the ultimate crime you have to pay the ultimate price.

When you have killers like Joe Smith, John Couey, and David Westerfield whose guilt is beyond any doubt why do they deserve to sit in cell living, breathing, eating, seeing their families, getting Christmas presents, etc. when their victims mutilated bodies are lying in a casket?

[libsluvsuvs]

Posted by roger_inkart at 06:46 PM : Dec 17, 2007
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point taken..now will you give us the BENEFITS..of keeping unrehabitable murderers alive and leeching off MY tax money...

[libsluvsuvs]

I think killing people in general is beneficial to society.


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Posted by fibonacci_ at 06:44 PM : Dec 17, 2007
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well you seem to be trying to avoid the real issue here..WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CONVICTED MURDERERS..not law abiding citizens..

so i guess murderers killing innocent civilians ARE BENEFICIAL in your logic.

[roger_inkart]

Murder rates for states that have the death penalty are generally much higher then those that do not.

In those states that do not have the death penalty, have a combined 40% less murders since 1990 then those that do.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=12&did=168#stateswithvwithout

I would recommend the pro-death penalty folk take a few moments to examine the evidence on this site:

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/

It''s really eye-opening and demonstrates CLEARLY how not only ineffective the DP is, how it is actually counterproductive to bringing crime down.