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Expanded Hate Crime Legislation Dropped From Defense Policy Bill

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by ralan40 December 7, 2007 11:39 AM EST
what was the legislation doing tied to a defense spending bill?
Typically, these type of ''riders'' are put there to politically blackmail lawmakers into approving.

How do we know it wasn''t the major part of the bill that was the reason for the defeat. The media is only focused on the rider.

Extra legle protections for one group = discrimination (for excluded groups) no matter how you cut it.
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by mitywhity December 7, 2007 11:34 AM EST
exCoachKen.......they don''t come any more crude than old exCoachKen. A true socialist.
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by nexgen99 December 7, 2007 11:25 AM EST
What does the politically correct want. Everytime someone gets offened we have to pass some kind of legistation to protect them. Give us all a break already.
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by excoachken December 7, 2007 11:16 AM EST
If Jesus walked up to a typical Neo-con bigot in the street and asked him for some money to help the poor guy who''s house was burning down in front of them, the good Christian redneck would probably respond by calling Jesus G.A.Y.!
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by mudrose-2009 December 7, 2007 10:52 AM EST


December 7, 1941
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by macusweil December 7, 2007 9:24 AM EST
..with liberty and justice for all*

*unless you are black, a woman, disabled, homeless, poor, gay or Bush thinks you are an enemy combatant. (no habeas corpus for you! backa the line!!)
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by brianbwb-2009 December 7, 2007 8:59 AM EST
"People usually have parades because they want to flaunt something, in this case their perversion, to reveal to the world that they have no shame of what they have chosen to do. (This is not hate.....just truth.)"
Posted by noseonurface

Actually you speak truth, but I would add that they need not be ashamed of what they do, just do it in the privacy of their own spaces. They don''t need my validation (or anyone else''s, for that matter), they can and should do whatever they will do with consenting adult partners, even without it.

To ask the state to sanction homosexual marriage is asking the state to interfere in a religious concept, which is rightly forbidden. Any secular, legalistic aspects can be taken care of with appropriate paperwork.

There is no need for hate crime laws of any kind, if some one commits a crime, punish them for the crime. What we need to do is make sure criminals are punished equally, without regard for their gender, ethnicity, or economic status, and it is this that has been the real problem, that must be corrected.
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by dmhphils December 7, 2007 8:09 AM EST
Would you like to read my palm and tell me how long I will live, as well?
Posted by rudy654 at 04:16 AM : Dec 07, 2007
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No need; you''re already dead as you speak.
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by dmhphils December 7, 2007 8:07 AM EST
Is it HATE to tell your child not to play with fire or play in the street? Is it hatred to tell your child not to smoke grass because it is wrong....and it is wrong because it will hurt you in the end?

No, it''''''''s not hate.....it''''''''s love! You don''''''''t want your child to play in the street because you love your child and don''''''''t want to see him run over or harmed....that is love and love corrects us when we are doing something that will endanger our lives.


Just answer the question.
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by rudy654-2009 December 7, 2007 7:16 AM EST
No, you are neither believing or unbelieving. You are on the fence and trying to choose what to believe. You want to believe, but you are looking for proof, something you can feel, touch or smell before you will believe. You''''re like Thomas who said he would not believe unless he could stick his finger in the nail hole in the body of Jesus. But FAITH believes because God said so and that is enough. Posted by noseonurface at 09:32 PM

Wow! This is really amazing. Would you like to read my palm and tell me how long I will live, as well? I mean, certainly a person with such profound supernatural knowledge must have unlimited abilities in the paranormal.
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by grammawhamma December 7, 2007 6:59 AM EST
tbweb: The reason straight people don''t go around advertising that they are straight is because they already have rights and are accepted by the general population. G.ay couples just want the same rights that straight people have when it comes to insurance benefits, hippa laws etc when it comes to their significant other.
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by grammawhamma December 7, 2007 6:51 AM EST
I agree with those who say punish the crime...not the reason behind it. However, then we also need to throw political correctness out the window.

Had Ismus said of a white team..."look at those blond cracker babes go" ...would he have been fired? If the team whose mascot was a pig and they called it porkchops...thus offending Puerto Ricans, instead would have called themselves the Pork Hocks and Saurkrauts...would the Germans been offended? Doubt it. I want a bill throwing out politcal correctness!
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by watcher269-2009 December 7, 2007 5:42 AM EST
Well, They know they have 1 republican vote. Sen. Craig! You just have to catch him in his voting booth - but watch out for his wide stance!

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by dmhphils December 7, 2007 4:21 AM EST
G.A.Y. people have parades and everything, who cares! Keep it to yourself!

Posted by tbweb at 01:10 AM : Dec 07, 2007
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People usually have parades because they want to flaunt something, in this case their perversion, to reveal to the world that they have no shame of what they have chosen to do.

(This is not hate.....just truth.)
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by tbweb December 7, 2007 4:10 AM EST
I never understood why G.A.Y. people need to advertise and let everybody know their G.A.Y. in the first place! What happens in the bedroom is private, nobodys business. Whats up with that disclosure anyway, why does anyone need to know that? Straight people don''t go around advertising their straight. There has to be some complex associated with thinking people need to know that. G.A.Y. people have parades and everything, who cares! Keep it to yourself!
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by fiteit1 December 7, 2007 4:09 AM EST
singinrick - C:The crusades and other things you have mentioned were performed by NOT TRUE CHRISTIANS.

Singinrick, are you saying that the child molesting priests, the cardinals and bishops that covered up the child molesting priests are not true Christian%u2019s?

Moreover, if they aren''t as you%u2019re admitting, why haven''t the true Christians stood up and kicked their assses out? Better yet prosecuted them. Fines mean nothing since it comes from the coffers of the congregation.

Besides, religion has no place in distributing fair and equal justice to EVERYONE. If you so choose to believe that God will judge us all then let us live with fair and equal justice on earth and let God deal with us when we leave. Please don%u2019t enforce your beliefs on others that don%u2019t believe.
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by dmhphils December 7, 2007 4:08 AM EST
I can read his posts and I can understand his posts...and his posts suggest hate against homosexuals..which IF YOU GET THIS RIGHT..is a total violation of God''''''''s message.
Posted by libsluvsuvs at 09:43 PM : Dec 06, 2007
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Is it HATE to tell your child not to play with fire or play in the street? Is it hatred to tell your child not to smoke grass because it is wrong....and it is wrong because it will hurt you in the end?

No, it''''s not hate.....it''''s love! You don''''t want your child to play in the street because you love your child and don''''t want to see him run over or harmed....that is love and love corrects us when we are doing something that will endanger our lives.

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by ontheleft December 7, 2007 3:48 AM EST
"God does not create a person with homosexual desires"

You are: 1) uneducated 2)ignorant

Obviously you know nothing about homosexuality short of the three quotes you cited from the Bible.

It''s pathetic that Congress had to attach it to a defense spending bill to try to pass it because we know standing on it own Bush would veto it on behalf of the religious right.
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by kansas1946 December 7, 2007 3:44 AM EST
Exactly what does Jesus, God, and the Bible, have to do with the article at hand. This article, I believe is about hate-crime legislation. Did Jesus say it was okay to beat, torture, and hang a young man on a fence post to die, just because he was gay. I am a little confused here.
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by rheola-2009 December 7, 2007 2:27 AM EST

B: Jesus and God are the SAME person/Diety. Jesus IS God. He was God in human form. God came to this earth as a human, JESUS CHRIST. Jesus IS GOD. The God of the Old Testament and the New.

Posted by singinrick at 11:11 PM : Dec 06, 2007

No doubt you can supply some logical proof to back up this statement, and further some proof that a god exists.



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