Comments on: Bush: "Nothing's Changed" On Iran

Says Intelligence Report Shows Need To Stay Vigilant About Iran's Nuke Ambitions

[joeshields56]

At this point in the game George Bush should just sit down and shut the f*** up.
Can we please have someone with a little bit of intelligence as our next President. Please.

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by t_barr at 10:50 PM : Dec 04, 2007

Exactly....

[j-whitman]

Quite frankly, Bush can''t be trusted with our National Security or Defense Secrets.

[j-whitman]

AJMarine1,,, Isreal''s government flatly can''t be trusted with our National Security or defense secrets, in spite of what Bush says or thinks.

[ajmarine1]

As you see there is a hell of a lot more to it than simply opposition from Muslems.

Posted by j-whitman at 11:06 PM : Dec 04, 2007


Can''t agree with you more.

[j-whitman]

AJMarine1,,,, Ariel Sharon, now that guy was another major problem in creating the problems, he wiped out refugee camps men, women & children ----- He was a terrorist --- But, that''s another story ------ As you see there is a hell of a lot more to it than simply opposition from Muslems.

[toolmangler-2009]

Amen, and excuse and the worst policy decision in the history of the US. The guy is nuts..nuts..nuts.
Posted by kansas1946 at 10:46 PM : Dec 04, 2007



Bushy_baby needed a war and "Idee fixea" to coverup his gutting of the Constitution and opening of the borders. Its working so far. GOD help us all....

[ajmarine1]

J, if you are still here.


Two years before he became president, George W. Bush flew over Palestinian territories in a helicopter ride with Ariel Sharon, then Israel''s foreign minister. Bush called what he saw below "Palestinian camps" and said, according to Paul O''Neil, who was briefly his treasury secretary: "Looked real bad down there. I don''t see much we can do over there at this point. I think it''s time to pull out of that situation."

There it was. The United States would disengage from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, leaving it to Israelis and Palestinians to battle it out. It was a fateful decision with bloody consequences.

Disengagement Fails: In the last days of his presidency, Bill Clinton attempted to broker a peace agreement between Israel''s Ehud Barak and the Palestinian Authority''s Yasser Arafat at Camp David. The negotiations failed. A second intifada, or uprising, broke out in the Occupied Territories (the first stretched between 1987 and 1993.
By spring 2002, blood was flowing in Palestinian and Israeli streets. Bush''s hands-off approach had failed. He delivered a pair of speeches -- on April 4 and June 24, 2002 -- that became known as his Road Map for Peace in the Middle East. Five years later, it''s the road yet not taken.

[ajmarine1]

Posted by j-whitman at 10:51 PM : Dec 04, 2007

Good night J, another night, another time.

Live Long and Prosper.

[j-whitman]

AJ,,, Good night

[j-whitman]

Principles On Interim Self-Government --- In essence, a Palestinian State ----- Bush is only trying not to sound Clintonesque & that''s after 7 years of No Efforts

[ajmarine1]

J, we need to be wrapping this up, before long, I will be leaving for home.

[j-whitman]

AJMarine1,,,, I''m signing off now, it''s good conversation... Catch you another time.
.... As you said the On July 11, the Camp David 2000 Summit convened. The summit ended on July 25, without an agreement being reached. At its conclusion, a Trilateral Statement was issued defining the agreed principles to guide future negotiations.[1]
--- Then along came Bush 43 who immediately refused to follow any of Clinton''s policies including on the dangers of Ossama Bin Laden & all the warnings of an eventual attack by airlines. ------ This is Clinton''s Oslo Accord''s & it was providing a Palestinian State.

[ajmarine1]

it was a forerunner to Bush''''s feeble attempt. He''''s trying to not make it sound Clintonesque.

Posted by j-whitman at 10:36 PM : Dec 04, 2007


What were the details of the Oslo Accords?

On September 13, 1993 representatives of the State of Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) signed the "Declaration of Principles On Interim Self-Government Arrangements", a document also known as the "Oslo Accords". They were signed at a Washington ceremony hosted by US President Bill Clinton on September 13, 1993, during which Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin ended decades as sworn enemies with an uneasy handshake. This agreement was the fruit of secret negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, represented by the PLO, following the Madrid Conference in 1991.


Is this what you are talking about? This was back in 93.

[kansas1946]

AJMarine--It was not the time to get Sadam--it was an excuse. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by liberalme at 10:24 PM : Dec 04, 2007


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Amen, and excuse and the worst policy decision in the history of the US. The guy is nuts..nuts..nuts.

[j-whitman]

AJMarine1,,, I just read your privious post, I missed it The Oslow Accords were a sucess, at least untill Bush 43 came along, in many ways. And it took Carter, Bush 41 & Clinton''s continuing efforts, to get that far....
.. Then we have 7 years of Bush 43''s abstinance & aggrivating the problems instead of continuing the efforts...

[j-whitman]

AJMarine1,,,, That''s what I figured you were talking about,, Read my last post on the Oslow Accords, it was a forerunner to Bush''s feeble attempt. He''s trying to not make it sound Clintonesque.

[ajmarine1]

It was not the time to get Sadam--it was an excuse.

Posted by liberalme at 10:24 PM : Dec 04, 2007


It was an ultimatum that Saddam, Uda, and Cusa chose to ignore and they paid the price.

[searingtruth]

"American liberty has gone all right---right in the crapper searing"
liberalme


Indeed fellow patriot.
ST


"We need not debate the existence of our three branches of government, only the punishment for those who would destroy them."
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[ajmarine1]

Whst deal did Clinton offer them that they refused ??

Posted by j-whitman at 10:17 PM : Dec 04, 2007



Camp David Peace Summit between July 11th-24th, 2000.
Expectations were high but uncertain. President Clinton was hoping for a miracle.

President Clinton announced his invitation to Barak and Arafat on July 5, 2000, to come to Camp David to continue their negotiations on the Middle East peace process. Building on the positive steps towards peace of the earlier 1978 Camp David Accords where President Jimmy Carter was able to broker a peace agreement between Egypt, represented by President Anwar Sadat, and Israel represented by Prime Minister Menachem Begin. The Oslo Accords of 1993 between the later assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Palestine Liberation Organization Chairman Yasser Arafat had provided that agreement should be reached on all outstanding issues between the Palestinians and Israeli sides - the so-called final status settlement - within five years of the implementation of Palestinian autonomy. However, the interim process put in place under Oslo had fulfilled neither Israeli nor Palestinian expectations, and Arafat argued that the summit was premature[citation needed].

On July 11, the Camp David 2000 Summit convened. The summit ended on July 25, without an agreement being reached. At its conclusion, a Trilateral Statement was issued defining the agreed principles to guide future negotiations.[1]