Comments on: Mass. Considers Outlawing Spanking

Bill Sponsors Say Some Parents Go Too Far, Hope To Start Debate Setting Limits

[gunownerdan]

Just have the TV or an ATV raise your kids and you won''t need to be spanking them.

[poopusbuttus]

Spankings are a necessity. That''s it....end of story. No personal story here today because there is no need for one.

If the govt feels free to pass this law, so what! I for one, along with everyone else will not listen to it anyway.

Pass all the stupid laws you want because we will not listen to them....

[slim1h2o]

My sister at the time, (in her teens) thought those were just meaningless parroted words & needed verification by disipline that she cared.

Posted by krazykat2525 at 03:23 PM : Nov 28, 2007

Those are very good words of wisdom,, people!

[krazykat2525]

this is so beyond stupied i cannot believe it. Spankings are necessary. When my sister was in high school she talked very nastily to my mom, & in talking with her, i told her a dog should not be spoken to in the tone of voice she used on our mom. She said she didn''t mean to do it, it just happened. One day mom turned around & slapped her across the face saying do NOT talk to me in that tone of voice again. My sister wailed etc etc etc, but later confided in me, i needed that. I needed to know mom still loved me. i realize a gazillion people will scream & yell & point out this is unacceptable. I also know that it reassured my sister mom loved her far more than saying or hugging did. My sister at the time, (in her teens) thought those were just meaningless parroted words & needed verification by disipline that she cared.

[bobgee_1999]

Spanking is seldom actually necessary in the rare cases where people realize parenting is a full-time activity, that school and TV are not babysitters, and that just because you have reproductive organs does not qualify you to have children. As a willful child and product of the belt, I can tell you corporal punishment never detered me from doing anything.

[knyghtwolf]

So how about a child hitting a parent? What laws are enforceable for that? I''m waiting for that ONE special story about a parent or parents that used TAZERING as a means of disciple instead of spanking. Since it leaves no real discernable marks. That will be the next level of disciple for children. The one thing my children hated more than anything in the world was those half to two hour lectures on expected behavior. One time, they were hitting each other so much that I made them wear socker boppers (HUGE gloves) and hit each other until they were totally exhausted; point made, they never fought against each other by hitting again, they talked, maybe by starting to shout but it eventually became a discussion.

[myidoncbs]

The person who said this: "Corporal Punishment is a tool that can be used to make a fine outstanding citizens. The point is not to hurt but to EMBARRASE someone, and to help them recognize what is acceptable conduct in a strong society!"

...just does NOT know what he is talking about!

The truth of the matter is, corporeal punishment only works under the most carefully constructed of circumstances. The recipient must know what behavior will be punished BEFOREHAND and must know just what the punishment will ben, the punishment must be adminstered without anger, and the punishment must be administered fairly and consistenly, and it must be administered immediately. If there is any deviation from any of these points, then instead of "teaching the child to behave" you teach the child to FEAR and to AVOID the person who adminstered the punishment. Children then LIE and DECEIVE in order to avoid further punishment. They also learn to be abusers themselves.

MOST PARENTS DO NOT ADMINSTER PUNISHMENT PROPERLY. Therefore, they are doing their children (and the whole society) GREAT HARM.

Violent, out of control, abusers just breed more violent, out of control, abusers. It''s a viscious cycle, one we need to put an end to.

Unfortunately, in a country where everyone loves to shoot first and ask questions later, requiring a little sanity is childrearing is too much to hope for.

[slim1h2o]

Posted by tuckerndfw at 03:02 PM : Nov 28, 2007

ABSOLUTLY! No one are complete angles while growing up.
And I''m for equal rights, and all that, but the Feminists are abandoning the American family. They no longer care what happens to their kids, or families for that matter.

I think that was their goal along, well feminists, how''s it working for ya?

[pntbtrsprhro]

The thing is, coporal punishment is not needed at all if a parent knows how to discipline correctly. Talk first, kids test boundaries to see how much they can get away with...if they see a parent getting angry they''ve won, if not, the fun is gone. I''ve seen so many parents threaten to take away a favorite toy or dessert, only to not follow through. Kids will learn that the parent isn''t serious, and keep acting up.

My 3 brothers and I were never spanked, hot-sauced, wrist-slapped, and we still learned our lessons. My older brother once thought it would be fun to lock me in the basement for 4 hours during a school snow day, our dad pulled him out of town hockey for a season, and my brother never bullied me again. If we got caught cursing in public, we had to go up to anyone around who might have heard us, and publically apologize.

If kids realize that their parent''s threats are followed through, they won''t act up in the first place.

[ladyjaneg]

I tend to agree the one parent shoudl stay home---although with today''s prices, it might be heard to swing with a single income, when the country seems geared towards dual income families.
As for those who are against any way shape or form of spanking, you can''t tell me there hasn''t been one tim eyou have come across a teenager or whatever who hasn''t deserved a good smack in the face. Just think, if their parents had disciplined them and (after talking to them) gave them a small pop on the behind; they might not be this way and actually have respect for those around them.