Comments on: Mass. Considers Outlawing Spanking

Bill Sponsors Say Some Parents Go Too Far, Hope To Start Debate Setting Limits

[kailumego1]

"Big Brother is Watching", the government and its followers pontificate "spanking" is abuse, then turn around and "bark" when parents don''t apply enough discipline.

There is a such thing as "too much or too little", you have some forging permissive parenting styles, those whose kids heavily indulge in drugs, alcohol, and murder. Yes, those that are belligerent and fowl mouthed to their parents, who encourage "autonomy" and "creativity", self-expression, etc. While these creative children search the Internet for recipes in "bomb-making", mass murder, etc., the parents are on permanent vacation.

[kailumego1]

These are the children of conservative/leftest ideologues that have become so desensitized to human suffering and exhibit anti-social behavior, because mommy and daddy scream to the top of their lungs "spanking" is a form of child-abuse..

These children are allowed to wander aimlessly without any guidance or direction, they are the "time-out" kids, which are allowed unbridled freedom to explore their environment to heart''s content.

These are the "do-gooders" protesting against "spanking" equating it with child-abuse, while demanding harsher punishment for criminals, and what an oxymoron.

Beating one''s child is a stark difference compared to "spanking", generally a mother spanks the child if she feels his/her life is in grave danger, e.g. placing a hand over a hot stove, running in the street, putting foreign objects in his/her mouth, etc. The spanking is supposed to deter aversive behavior, and not terrify the child into a state of neurosis.

Some people can really oversimplify or over-exaggerate a situation, making a mountain out of a mole hill, go after real abusers.

[libra127]

Posted by krazykat2525 at 03:23 PM : Nov 28, 2007

Krazykat:
Your story about your sister getting slapped in the face is the stupidest thing I''ve heard yet on these boards. The slap meant your mother was ANGRY and out of control. It did NOT mean she loved your sister. (She may indeed have loved her, but that was not demonstrated by slapping her. It just means she was immature and lashing out in anger).

[michellem99-2009]

i like jennmarie62O''s posts. Yer got her pissed guys. Yer think it was lovely growing up in foster homes and they did buse. Sure my late uncle slapped my asre. I don''t know why. I said a nasty word and late aunt used a bar of soap. After the state took me them foster mothers did not know how to raiase a blind child. They did all the wrong things. I knew I could get away with every thing being a blind girl in one home. I did. Sorry but true. I never had kids.

[missingamerica]

I an TOTALLY blind in one EYE because I was slapped in my face.

Posted by MichelleM99 at 05:10 PM : Nov 28, 2007

In case I ever meet ya, which eye? I seem to make a much better first impression if I approach people from their blind side.

[michellem99-2009]

I will draw the line here. I can''t believe ye aprove of slapping in the face. I an TOTALLY blind in one EYE because I was slapped in my face. The bottom is the place where yer paw goes not the face.

[TheArkhamAngel]

MyIDonCBS: "MOST PARENTS DO NOT ADMINSTER PUNISHMENT PROPERLY. Therefore, they are doing their children (and the whole society) GREAT HARM."

That is a good point and I agree.

[ladyjaneg]

Everything you said, PEGUESPLACE, made perfect sense!! Even what you said abotu the handwriting! When I was young(ok, I''m 21) if I said a bad word, I would get spoken to tersely, and if I said it again, I might get my mouth ''washed out". or even a small spanking on the bottom. It absolutely FLOORS me the things teenagers and ''tweens'' say and how they treat their parents!

[TheArkhamAngel]

"I would not use the word ''abuse,'' because I think most parent who spank have a very good goal, which is setting limits and trying to get their children to have good values," Whitehurst said."

I agree; and having said that, they should not outlaw corporal punishment in the home or the school. Discipline people, discipline. They''ve taken so many activities away from children in school that these kids today will never learn how to socially interact or build any character whatsoever. Just give them a trophy and stop keeping score while you''re at it.

The goal of the parent is to teach the child to become a self sufficient adult "out there in the real world" The government (yes the government) is not allowing parents to do their job.

[peguesplace]

I guess I''m just an old codger with a bunch of outdated, politically incorrect views, but it seems to me that many of the problems we have began with Dr. Spock and his treatise on child-rearing.. Look at the crime rate, the disrespect for others and themselves..
Another indicator is handwriting.. since the advent of the new ways of teaching, too many of our young can barely write, much less have the beautiful script of our elders who had their knuckles whacked (an offense almost punishable by death nowadays)..
Removing corporal punishment eliminates the most effective tool parents have at their disposal. Not that it should be imposed unneccessarily, but THERE ARE times when all else has failed and it should be considered..
Kids nowadays feel empowered enough, but this would allow them to totally disrupt their own homes and leave the parents without any recourse. And if they did (God Forbid!) spank their child, they could be prosecuted..
"As ye sow, so shall ye reap".. "nuff said....