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Intel Official Says Citizens Should Rethink Notion of Privacy And What To Give Up For Safety

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by glaswolf November 12, 2007 3:38 AM EST
Police states have to be implemented and require the cooperation of the main masses. Rhetoric and data means little if the official side can''t conquer the population physically. Not having any data is no hinderance to police stats if folks willingly surrender to threat. We are a long ways from a police state here and it will mostly likely never go that way, not because the fearful threaten revenge but because the brave have the martial capability to fight a war within the contiguous 48 to prevent any take over. The NSA is a basic trustworthy organization. Those who fear police statism should demand a draft of academic officers, this will prevent those scary pontifications by the Kerrs of the nation from forming the bases of any imaginary threat. People must have faith in their fellow citizens protecting them, but I also understand that immigrants from police states, or whose parents ran instead of fought in conflict beyond the ponds, come from realities in which neighbors let police types drag their families away, often with brutal public beatings and rapes, molestations and robbery. Our family is so large and martial that we have no fear of any others. Our allies run into the many thousands and span states and nations. It is difficult to empathize with folks who fear official conquest. We have too many officials to fear family.
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by ontheleft November 12, 2007 3:34 AM EST
The U.S. is becoming more and more like Nazi Germany every day. My sister has been living in Ireland since the 80s and says she doesn''t recognize this country anymore. Neither do I.
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by brianbwb-2009 November 12, 2007 3:34 AM EST
"Yes, there are really evil bad guys out there. What else is new? Yes, they hate us and mean us harm." Posted by LawyerTom1

I would dispute even that assertion, My considerable international experience teaches me that they in fact don''t hate us, but they hate those who facilitate the colonialist ambitions of the businesses that oppress their brethren. Unless you are one of the above mentioned, the only thing you have to worry about is being collateral damage of an attack launched from your own leaders in false flag propaganda campaigns.
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by lawyertom1 November 12, 2007 3:24 AM EST
Now the true totalitarian bent of these nut cases is coming out. Forget the Constitution. Forget the Bill of Rights. Ignore that compared to the Soviet Union during the Cold War these "terrorists" are a pathetic joke [compare C4 type bombs and posturing threats to thousands of deliverable megatons]. Dulce bellum inexpertis.

Like the war in Iraq, this "give up your freedom" pitch is mostly a fraud put forward by incredibly stupid and incredibly incompetent individuals. Yes, there are really evil bad guys out there. What else is new? Yes, they hate us and mean us harm. But, we cannot lose perspective. Our own government is turning into an enemy of freedom and liberty, the very foundation of our nation. We can defeat terrorism without losing our soul. It requires lots of smarts, lots of clever strategy, a true dedication to our military (not the phony talk-talk of the Shrub), an understanding of our enemy beyond stereotypes. Illegitimis nil carborundum. Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.
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by p-syrus November 12, 2007 3:21 AM EST
Privacy no longer can mean anonymity, says Donald Kerr, the principal deputy director of national intelligence. Instead, it should mean that government and businesses properly safeguard people''s private communications and financial information.
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This man has no business being in a high level sensitive government position. He is advocating for the elimination of fundamental human rights of the population of the united states in order to promote the powers of corporate & government institutions.

Not surprising at all that he serves the Bush Administration.

So, just which political & government leaders will have the courage to publically repudiate this treasonous s*b?
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by brianbwb-2009 November 12, 2007 3:20 AM EST
I have seen this one coming for decades now, first try to scare you into giving up your rights for the illusion of safety, soon you don''t have either, because the biggest threats will be the ones invading your privacy. History shows that such ideas wouldn''t be broached for debate if they were not already happening, and the fascists were floating the idea, to "legitimize" it, contrary to the existence of the Fourth Amendment, that "G.D. piece of paper" that Bush hates so much.

The reference to Google is total B.S., because you voluntarily enter Google space, and what this totalitarian fascist sycophant Kerr is saying is that they want to come into your private space without your permission.

You can false flag New York again (many of us would prefer if you did Washington DC, just Capitol Hill, mind you) until there is no one left alive. We are not, and never shall we be afraid enough to sacrifice our right to privacy.
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by sparks224 November 12, 2007 3:11 AM EST
Ron Paul is just a Libertarian
(a Republican without the social issues).
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by trueprophet November 12, 2007 2:56 AM EST
RON PAUL RESPECTS YOUR PRIVACY
Like Ron Paul, I believe the biggest threat to your privacy is the government. We must drastically limit the ability of government to collect and store data regarding a citizens'' personal matters. We must stop the move toward a national ID card system (e.g., The Real ID Act). Under this new Law, states are currently issuing new driver''s licenses embedded with standard identifier data (RFID chips). Although, many states are refusing to comply. A national ID with new tracking technologies means we''re heading into an Orwellian world of no privacy. Ron Paul was one of the few members of Congess who voted against the Real ID Act. Also, under current medical privacy protection rules, which Ron Paul also opposed, insurance companies and other entities have access to your personal medical information. Finally, there''s the so-called Patriot Act, which Congressman, Ron Paul also voted against. As originally proposed, it expanded the federal government''s ability to use wiretaps without judicial oversight; allowed nationwide search warrants non-specific to any given location, nor subject to any local judicial oversight; made it far easier for the government to monitor private Internet usage; authorized sneak and peek warrants enabling federal authorities to search a person''s home, office, or personal property without that person''s knowledge; and required libraries to turn over records of books read by patrons. Ron Paul sponsored a Bill to overturn the Patriot Act.
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by sparks224 November 12, 2007 2:49 AM EST
U.S. Official: The Constitution Is A Lost Cause

Why?
We didn''t need to do that for any other war.
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by gunownerdan November 12, 2007 2:41 AM EST
"Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.
The cause of liberty, the cause of American, cannot succeed with any lesser effort."
-- President John F. Kennedy, January 29, 1961
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by radiob-2009 November 12, 2007 2:34 AM EST
BTW, did you get my last email about yahoo?



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Posted by ToolMangler

Did indeed and sent you a reply, plus a few from YM ?


Hmmm what gives? Spying on our emails? Not as optimistic as one would perceive just determined to go down with a fight.
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by toolmangler-2009 November 12, 2007 2:31 AM EST
Posted by radiob at 11:04 PM : Nov 11, 2007


I wish I could sound upbeat about the future, radio. But I can''t. All my reading of many books won''t let me. "The Bible tells me so" among others.
BTW, did you get my last email about yahoo?
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by magoo2u1 November 12, 2007 2:25 AM EST
"Protecting anonymity isn''t a fight that can be won. Anyone that''s typed in their name on Google understands that."
Hey Mr Kerr-stupid. I googled my name and cam up with nothing. Go to H E L L.
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by trueprophet November 12, 2007 2:22 AM EST
RON PAUL RESPECTS YOUR PRIVACY
Like Ron Paul, I believe the biggest threat to your privacy is the government. We must drastically limit the ability of government to collect and store data regarding a citizens'' personal matters. We must stop the move toward a national ID card system (e.g., The Real ID Act). Under this new Law, states are currently issuing new driver''s licenses embedded with standard identifier data (RFID chips). Although, many states are refusing to comply. A national ID with new tracking technologies means we''re heading into an Orwellian world of no privacy. Ron Paul was one of the few members of Congess who voted against the Real ID Act. Also, under current medical privacy protection rules, which Ron Paul also opposed, insurance companies and other entities have access to your personal medical information. Finally, there''s the so-called Patriot Act, which Congressman, Ron Paul also voted against. As originally proposed, it expanded the federal government''s ability to use wiretaps without judicial oversight; allowed nationwide search warrants non-specific to any given location, nor subject to any local judicial oversight; made it far easier for the government to monitor private Internet usage; authorized sneak and peek warrants enabling federal authorities to search a person''s home, office, or personal property without that person''s knowledge; and required libraries to turn over records of books read by patrons. Ron Paul sponsored a Bill to overturn the Patriot Act.
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by magoo2u1 November 12, 2007 2:19 AM EST
I could talk for an hour about some of the stupid and wrong headed things that were said. It''s easier to just say that Mr Kerr can go to hell. That my doctor, bank, employer ,spouse , or anyone I choose to give personal information to , has personal information on me , is no reason the government should be able to spy on me.
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by howcould November 12, 2007 2:15 AM EST
Yaz dun numbed me.
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by howcould November 12, 2007 2:14 AM EST
7 years ago, I was supposed to be all in a tizzy over a peckkkertrack. So ya.. tell me what to worry about.
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by howcould November 12, 2007 2:13 AM EST
Where would you be, democrat? Hollywood? Newspaper? Media mogle? Without worry..

Ya know what I''m worried about? My toe nails are too long.
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by howcould November 12, 2007 2:11 AM EST
It was like that last election too. And the election before. And all it did was make people worry about noth''n.
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by howcould November 12, 2007 2:09 AM EST
Theres an election.. and lo and behold: "Oh my gawd! Somebody''s invading our privacy!" How convenient..
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