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nextprophet says:
HOPE FOR AMERICA: PRESIDENT RON PAUL

-- No more meddling in other country''s political affairs
-- No more aggressive military actions overseas
-- No more torture prisons
-- No more pseudo-wars like the "War on Drugs"
-- No more IRS and unconstitutional income taxes
-- No more Federal Reserve (the group of private banks which owns our government)
-- No more erosion of Social Security to pay for militarization
-- No more U.N. (one world government) participation
-- No more NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO or GATT
-- No more North American Union
-- No more federal gun control laws
-- No more illegal aliens pouring-in over our country''s borders
-- No more illegal aliens allowed to roam freely in our streets
-- No more government invasion of your privacy
-- No more federal Laws which are not authorized by The Constitution
-- No more federal erosion of State sovereignty
-- No more unlimited federal government

They don''t call him "Dr. No" for no reason. The Doctor is in! Join us in this 21st Century political revolution at ronpaul2008.com

"Liberty, when it takes root, is a plant of rapid growth."
- George Washington

"Those who expect to reap the blessing of freedom must...undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
- Thomas Paine

"Ron Paul doesn''t represent your Father''s school of political thought. He represents your Founding Fathers."
- Me
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watcher269-2009 says:
Ya know this talk about spying on American citizens is wrong and un-lawful and so on and .....

The United States Gov. has been spying on it citizens for years now. Not directly, but in-directly - through England, New Zealand, Australia - they spy on America for us - and we spy on their country for them.

That has been going on since the 50''s - not a BIG Deal!

What is a BIG Deal though is when that information is abused by people who feel they are above the law - like Hoover felt and did by having the FBI spy on Everyone. We have another Hoover in office right now and it is Cheney and he is using that information for reasons other then intended.

Another problem is the Religous Right - if they get their hands on information they will use it against people. I in no way believe any of the TV Evilgelicals - they are Mean, Ruthless people who say they act in the name of God - these are the people to be feared.

Oversight - the man says is important here - well in this administration - THERE ISN''T ANY!!!

That''s the problem!
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brianbwb-2009 says:
"We were pretty independent folks, there isn''t anything on the other side ... we were processing." Posted by glaswolf

Agreed, the NSA before were an intel analysis apparatus, doing the job they were sent to do. Whether the job was morally, ethically, or legally correct was not part of the equation.

Things have changed, today''s NSA is a different beast altogether. The patriot act has turned the NSA into a domestic spying instrument, to be used by those whose personal agendas require the silencing of dissent.

The individual workers may very well be by and large nerds and CPU jocks, who are very good at their job, but like a faithful pit bull, they can be "sic-ed" on anyone the "master" chooses, and now the "master" chooses to "sic" them on the people whose rights and persons the "master" was supposed, by law, to protect.
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feelfree1 says:

SharnCedar,

Re: "I will protect her to the utmost, will you stand with me?"

Yup.
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michellem99-2009 says:
Today we have leaders that have a hate for the constution that that framers worked hard to write. Bush is the worse when he will not abide by it.It is more than a piece of paper. Yer read the book 1984..I did on talking books years ago. Say no to what this story talks about. The White House is wrong. Are ye so willing to give up or more like give in to one man..Nope. We are we the people are we not. We have a free press thanks Ben Franklin. We have 3 brances of govt. Not one. Say No and mean it as a one world govt is wrong. I don''t like thw term* one world order *as it wrong. This is America. A police state is wrong. Our vets died to keep this nation free. Barbara.
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octavianfdlr says:
On Nov 12, 2007, at 01:29 AM, UnderMyBoot said:
But they listen to their neocon masters. They gobble up talking points, and stop thinking for themselves. The enemy becomes the "liberals", the "Soldier haters", or some made-up straw man, and they stop thinking. It''s easier to turn on government Fox "News" TV and be told that all will be well if they simply give up their liberty piece-by-piece.

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Wow! What a mouthful! Now who, exactly, are these strawmen whom you described as "they?" And whom do you expect to use your little tirade as "talking points?"
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ontheleft says:
"Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.
The cause of liberty, the cause of American, cannot succeed with any lesser effort."
- President John F. Kennedy, January 29, 1961

thanks for the inspiration as I do believe we need to take arms up against the current Nazi administration which threatens our freedoms and liberty.
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gunownerdan says:
"Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.
The cause of liberty, the cause of American, cannot succeed with any lesser effort."
- President John F. Kennedy, January 29, 1961

http://www.a-human-right.com/effective.html
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ontheleft says:
glaswolf, you''re just a little bit right of insane. funny how you should bring the indians up. I recently cancelled my trip to see mt. rushmore after I learned a bit about its history and the Lakotas who used to own it and SHOULD own it.
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gunownerdan says:
"Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.
The cause of liberty, the cause of American, cannot succeed with any lesser effort."
- President John F. Kennedy, January 29, 1961
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