Comments on: Maine Advocate Defends School Pill Policy

Head Of Portland School Nurses Defends Birth Control For Middle-Schoolers Who Have Sex

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by donbl1 October 29, 2007 7:24 PM EDT
I just love these people who know what is right for everyone else.

Will be interesting to see if the school board is reelected and if her husband is reelected. Those are the benchmark grades for her extreme intelligence.

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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 7:11 PM EDT
Hey GrammaWhamma, unfortunately my daughter already knows what *** is. She learned at a way too young age due to being victim of a crime. When they tried to teach her 7th grade class about the reproductive system in science last year, she wanted nothing to do with it. The classes gave her nightmares and brought back panic attacks and we had to arrange a different science project for her to do so she didn''t have to deal with the reproductive system cirriculum in science. She knows too well about the anatomy of a boy and what the body parts below the waste are used for. She decided she couldn''t handle the cirriculum. It was a group effort between me and all the teachers at her school to help her through the term. Unfortunately, not all parents are active in their kids'' education. So when it comes to $ex ed, it''s my job. Not the school''s. But then again, she already knows what it is and the consequences and of communicable disease such as AIDS because she had to be tested for that at a young age as well due to the news I received regarding her monster. She''s extremely lucky that she didn''t get the fatal illness form him. The shcool is working on a different curriculum for her this year when they deal with that subject so she won''t suffer the same nightmares and panic attacks as last year.
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by erasmus6 October 29, 2007 6:59 PM EDT
Parents always think that if they are open with their kids and tell them they can come to them if they decide to have s-e-x, that they will. WRONG. Sure there may be some that do, but there is a lot more that won''t.
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by taddles-2009 October 29, 2007 6:59 PM EDT
"Fox TV commentator Bill O''Reilly said Maine''s attorney general faces "a conflict of interest." "

Bill O''Reilly is a whackjob loony who needs to be euthanized.
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by grammawhamma October 29, 2007 6:47 PM EDT
No way does the school system - middle or high school - have the right to teach my child about $ex. It''''s my job, not theirs. It''''s not the school''''s responsibility.
Posted by mediamomma at 02:04 PM : Oct 29, 2007

I agree with all you say except the above statement. There is nothing wrong with s.e.x education at school as alot of kids won''t get it at home or are uncomfortable asking their parents. Kids are curious about s.e.x at a young age and discuss it with their peers. (My four year old grand daughter asked me last week how babies get in their mom''s tummies and how they come out of their mom''s tummies.) Education is a good thing...but giving out birth control without parental permission is WRONG!
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by ajmystic October 29, 2007 6:42 PM EDT
I would like to say that I agree with patsy2007. A parent cannot sit on a child 24/7. The parent has to work or sleep sometime. I had an understanding with my son from an early age that he could talk to me about anything, including s e x. I also told him that if and when he wanted to start acting upon his "urges", to let me know and I would provide him with appropriate protection. Just because a girl is on the pill doesn''t mean she can''t pass on some sort of disease caused by intercourse. My son''s health care practioner was delighted that I was so open and up front with him. It''s time that parents pulled their heads out of the sand and took a realistic approach. Kids will have s e x and there is nothing a parent can do, other than applying a chastity belt or locking them up in a tower with no human contact. At least one person in the school system understands this and is trying to help keep these children from making more children.
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by jankebenz October 29, 2007 6:33 PM EDT
Small wonder that young girls are engaging in sexual activity with mentors such as britney and the like writhing and moaning their explicit seks trash to young viewers.Get rid of the smut and garbage they see and air visually healthy shows.
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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 6:26 PM EDT
Hey Oscar - are you a parent? If not, then you do not have the right to preach about parents who wish to keep their children from having $ex at a young age. My child has high aspirations and I want her to be able to see them through before she has kids. There is a natural order to things and getting done with school before having a baby comes first. And I do know where my child is and what my child is doing and she is most definitely not have $ex.
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by erasmus6 October 29, 2007 6:26 PM EDT
"The mother and the father both could not figure how it happen and when, so are they now irresponsible parents." patsy2007

Yes.:)

You are right that parents can''t know every second of the day, what their children are doing. But the problem is that there are a good many parents that don''t know what their kids are doing at ANY TIME of the day.

This school obviously has a problem with the kids having s-e-x- or they wouldn''t be doing this. Maybe your town isn''t having a problem with kids having s-e-x, but this one is!

The fact is that kids are having s-e-x younger and younger these days and parents need to pull their heads out of their a-s-ses and start paying attention. Now I am NOT for giving them birth control pills because then they will need to start having physical exams,etc. but I am for having condoms made available and education.

For you parents that think that your kid isn''t going to have s-e-x or that they will come to you if they decide to, you need to give your heads a shake.

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by michellem99-2009 October 29, 2007 6:25 PM EDT
Wake up Ladies..I could see this coming as I was a foster child..I was abused in them homes..I had to push a foster father a way from me and other males as I did not want them violating my person..I love Maine..But I take a stand on this issue..Patsy dear the nanny govt been telling ye how yer will/wont raise yer kids..It is not right.No sah..They break families up..Now that same govt will tell yer that yer girls must be on birth control..Why..So their teahers can have sexx with them..that does happen..No way..I HAVE NO CHILDREN BUT I AM AN AUNT OF SCHOOL AGE GIRLS THERE. I DON''T BELIEVE IN BIRTH CONTROL FOR PUPILS AND I PAY AS DOES EVERY ONE FOR THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND IF THAT ISSUE IS NOT DONE AWAY WITH WHAT WERE YER THINKING..STAND UP TO THE PLATE LADIES FOR YER GIRLS SAKE AND HEALTH..The school system gets a failing grade..Yer kids are entrusted to ye by the Allmighty..He choose ye as their parents not friends..BE A PARENT..
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by oscarez October 29, 2007 6:15 PM EDT
"erosion of the parent in the school ... What???? Most parents are expecting the schools to bring up their kids.

"something is very wrong with the idea that 10 to 13 year olds are seeking to have and are having experiences with sexxxxual intercourse."

This is a fact, young people are having intercourse younger and younger. Parents that don''t understand this fact are not living in these times and are in denial. *** is every where and kids are not stupid. The natural urge to reproduce is strong in humans and for 2000 years religion has made something natural a sin. Yep, the Republicans are leading the charge to burn the witches.
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by billpl-2009 October 29, 2007 6:03 PM EDT
If an eleven year old girl desires use birth control,

then the parents

a. haven''t done their job
b. are incapable of doing their job
c. have a child too difficult to control

...did I miss something?

If a girl is old enough to get pregnant, then she should be able to acquire means to prevent it.

By the way folks....
it''s not illegal for a girl to have *** as a minor
It''s only illegal to have *** with her
....get your facts straight.
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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 5:56 PM EDT
If the parents knew what their kids were doing and when and with who then it may not have happened. But this lady in Maine permitting the middle schoolers to take birth control unbeknownst to parents is wrong. The schools should send letters to the parents of these children allowing them the option of opting their kids out of it. It''s not up to the schools to make medical decisions of our kids. If my daughter decides she wants to have $ex, I know she will be comfortable enough with me to tell me she wants to and if she''s not, she will go to another adult friend because that is the network that we have worked out and I will find out and know what she''s doing. So it''s my choice if I want her on the pill. No one else''s.
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by patsy2007-2009 October 29, 2007 5:47 PM EDT
I know after my comment I''m going to have every poster commenting about me.
But have some of you thought of how many children out there do things behind the parents and we as parents never find out. Yes, I''m a parent and would hate the fact that my daughter would be on Birth control at age 11, but have we thought about them not telling us what is going on or what they did while we where at the market, in the shower, at the bank, or even while they are in there room and we are sleep. C''mon people I''m not judging nobody''s parenting skills but we really don''t know it all specially on how or when to talk to them about s e x.
I remember when I was about 16 or 17yrs old I was working in a Jewelry store where this young girl walks right behind her mother I did not notice her belly but saw she looked depressed, her mother was upset since she had just found out was pregnant, she was 5 months and the girl was only 12 yrs old. The mother and the father both could not figure how it happen and when, so are they now irresponsible parents.
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by toldyouso21 October 29, 2007 5:39 PM EDT
Everyone is entitled to their convictions and their own sets of morals for THEIR own life. What we are seeing more and more of--is that people are not only interested in applying their moral beliefs to their own actions but want to impose their beliefs on everyone else through laws. Providing access to Perscription medicine for a minor without parental consent is just like dealing drugs--it encourages behavior that the user may not be ready for and that the parents will pay the highest cost for as the main support for that child.

These types of actions are no different than the right to lifers approach to life--it involves using laws to dictate or affect or mitigate the personal behavior of others, If this person does not want people providing chastity belts and other sexual deterrents--she needs to back off.

Incidentally, if this works as well as it does in higher ages--girls will still get pregnant, as they constantly forget to take the pills or play "roulette" with them.
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by Ozark_Sunshine October 29, 2007 5:34 PM EDT
Sounds like she''s advocating practicing medicine without a license.
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by whistleb4daw October 29, 2007 5:27 PM EDT
I have been watching this with growing alarm.My daughter is grown,but I have an infant granddaughter.I want to know why the goverment wants to chemically alter our daughters.First,they tout the gardisil,and it starts killing them,now they want to interfere with their reproductive rights?Sure,give her the pill at 11,when she is 21 she may be sterile.Asfar as this woman''s credintials,let''s just say I pass.I agree that convictions and morals can be two different things but I guess it doesnt matter if there is an agenda,huh?
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by toldyouso21 October 29, 2007 5:24 PM EDT
Do we have alot of need for pediatrics in the military? How young are they accepting in armed services?
Posted by Klingon69 at 10:54 AM : Oct 29, 2007

Uhmmm cute remark--but just so you know--the military hospitals not only provide to soldiers, but also to the soldier''s immediate family, that includes wife and children--they are provided dental, medical and other benefits for life for the vet and his spouse and for the kids--until the age of 18--this holds true whether the soldier stays in the military or gets out. I was born in a US military hospital in Europe. The nurses who tended to me and my mom were Pediatric and OB/GYN nurses respectively. My dad got out of the military in 1973, but his kids were all covered until they each reach 18, and he and my mom were covered until they died. Not that we used the coverage (since it was questionable and we had other coverage through civilian insurances) but it is there for every serviceman and their family
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by toldyouso21 October 29, 2007 5:17 PM EDT
"People who know her say she doesn''t back down from her convictions. "


There are a lot of people with convictions (like GWB and many in the moral majority) But having convictions and being right are 2 very different things. The key question here, is : "What is going on in this community, that girls are exposed to and practicing sexxxxx at such a young age? Maybe CPS needs to do some indepth investigation into the homelife of these people--something is very wrong with the idea that 10 to 13 year olds are seeking to have and are having experiences with sexxxxual intercourse.
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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 5:04 PM EDT
The day they give my daughter birth control at school is the day I pull her out and home school her or just pack up and move to a new zone. No way does the school system - middle or high school - have the right to teach my child about $ex. It''s my job, not theirs. It''s not the school''s responsibility. It''s sad that there are too many parents out there who care more about their own lives and situations who can''t raise their children to be polite and teach them about things like $ex, sticking up for themselves, keeping good grades and trying out for things they want to achieve and reaching for the stars and telling them that it''s okay to wait. I''m so glad I don''t live in Maine. I''d have to move.
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