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Head Of Portland School Nurses Defends Birth Control For Middle-Schoolers Who Have Sex

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by grammawhamma October 29, 2007 10:34 PM EDT
erasmus6: Very good post...I agree.

Michelle: As for the three year old that knew all about s.e.x. I do not believe in lying to a child that asks a complicated question or ignoring the question. I would try to answer the question in a way the child would understand at their age level. I don''t think a three year old needed to be told explicit details...but at least her parents talked to her.
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by dmhphils October 29, 2007 10:34 PM EDT
Nurse Rowe said, "We are on this earth for a very short time and have only one chance to act on our convictions." Its not so short that an eleven year old needs to go around at recess with birth control pills in her pocket. Come on, for Pete''s sake! Parents are so afraid of their own kids these days...afraid to correct them.....afraid to give them guidance for fear they won''t like them. What BS.
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by billpl-2009 October 29, 2007 10:21 PM EDT
billpl...think about it. It gives them a license to be promiscuous.
Posted by global_chick

I think about all the time.
My daughter''s a blonde haired blue eyed 13 year old boy crazed bombshell.
She''s also a competition swimmer (full time 5 days and week, 11 months a year)
She surfs, snowboards, 3.5 GPA and on the yearbook staff with an eye on a very expensive college.

I our house, se-x is a open topic
there''s nothing she''s not allowed to talk about.
birth control is hers for the asking
So far, she has no interest nor time, but then she''s only 13
either way, we let her know, that it''s her decision

....oh and of course I tell her
if I were to catch her in the act?
...I''d kill the punk who''s with her
nothing personal
I''m a Dad, it''s my job. :))
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by erasmus6 October 29, 2007 10:14 PM EDT
"How many of these kids genuinely can''''t talk to their parents, either because of potential abuse or some other reason, and how many just don''''t want to or are afraid of a parent''''s anger?" posted by global_chick

Just because a parent talks openly to their child about s-e-x doesn''t mean that the child is actually comfortable doing it. And the chances are when the time comes that they decide they WANT to have s-e-x, they probably aren''t going to consult you. A lot of times it just happens, it ain''t PLANNED.
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by erasmus6 October 29, 2007 10:02 PM EDT
global_chick

"The 99 percent of kids who will engage in promiscuous activity thanks to the idiocy of these board members far outweighs any perceived "benefits" for the one percent who supposedly can''''t talk to their parents."

A kid is either going to WANT to have s-e-x or isn''t. Giving them birth control or access to condoms (I am not for the pills) is NOT going to make them WANT to have s-e-x. AND if they WANT to have s-e-x, they are going to do it with or without the pills or condoms.


"Unless a child is being neglected or physically harmed in some fashion, they have no right to dictate a child''''s upbringing,"

If a parent isn''t watching out for their kid and not paying attention to what they are doing, is that not neglect? If a child is having unprotected s-e-x, is that not harming the child?

I can bet that more than half the parents that THINK their kid isn''t having s-e-x, probably is. And I will also bet that half the parents that THINK their child will come to them for birth control, WON''T.

I think some parents like living in DREAMLAND. That is why there is such a problem in this town.
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by michellem99-2009 October 29, 2007 10:00 PM EDT
crzmeat they hate the i told ye so..That ship went down as they used bad steel..it is the same with this issue..Girl yer best not lay with a male and if ye do there will hell to pay..Are parents still in the middle ages...They know way more than us at younger ages..but and I use but THEY are minors..I was floored when a 3 year old girl with full sight told me about s e x..I was 28..I asked when yer learn that..she said Mommy/Daddy..Truly that was too mush..I can''t believe I am talking about some thing I was taught taboo ...I think they would turn over in there graves so what..
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by Krazcarl October 29, 2007 9:15 PM EDT
The titanic was unsinkable when you expose logic to the public be prepared to man th6e lifeboats.
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by michellem99-2009 October 29, 2007 9:11 PM EDT
USE TO BE UP YE..DID YER KNOW A CHILD CAN PUT YER ASRE IN PRISOM THAT IS THE POWER THEY HAVE TODAY.THAT IS A FACT LADY..WHERE DO YE THINK THAT CHILD WILL END UP..THAT RIGHT..A ABUSED FOSTER CHILD THAT THE FOSTER MOTHERS BEAT BUT THAT CHILD IS GOOD FOR ONE THING THAT RIGHT THAT STATE AID AND THE HELL WITH THE CHILD..SO YES THEY JUDGE YE...
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by michellem99-2009 October 29, 2007 9:00 PM EDT
We are slowly becoming a ploice state..think about it. I could never bring up S E X in the foster homes as that was banned..I was 28 when a Dr. brought up birth control..I said what the hell is that..Never heard of it. Ye think yer child could come to ye in this matter the sad thing is they YER rWRONG MADAM THEY CAN YANK YER CHILDREN RIGHT OUT OF YER HOME AND YE CAN''T STOP IT
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by global_chick October 29, 2007 8:21 PM EDT
billpl...think about it. It gives them a license to be promiscuous.
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by global_chick October 29, 2007 8:19 PM EDT
Patsy, that''s not the school''s concern. What goes on at my home is my business, unless I am physically or emotionally harming my child. It is not up to you to judge how a parent is or is not raising their child. That is NONE of your business, nor is it of the school officials.
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by global_chick October 29, 2007 8:17 PM EDT
I think people need to be realistic here. How many of these kids genuinely can''t talk to their parents, either because of potential abuse or some other reason, and how many just don''t want to or are afraid of a parent''s anger? I think that number is probably no more than 1 percent. To suggest that a school has the right to usurp the rights of parents is utterly ridiculous, and is equivalent to creating a police-state in which parents have ZERO control over the upbringing of their own children. It is not up to school officials to make these decisions; it is up to ME.
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by billpl-2009 October 29, 2007 8:15 PM EDT
"The 99 percent of kids who will engage in promiscuous activity thanks to the idiocy of these board members far outweighs any perceived "benefits" for the one percent who supposedly can''''t talk to their parents"
Posted by global_chick


What you''re saying is that for every one girl that needs this service that 99 other girls will race off and have se-x because they can get pills too????????

....there must be some really serious bad parenting or really stupid little girls in that town.
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by michellem99-2009 October 29, 2007 8:08 PM EDT
YER WRONG ERASMUS6...MY FOSTER MOTHERS KNEW MY EVERY MOVE,MY CLOTHES,THERE WAS NO TV WATCHING..THERE WAS 3 CHANNELS..SHE BANNED THE FOLLOWING AND I HAD ABIDE BY THEM.
NO FRIENDS
NO TALKING TO BOYS
NO TV/RADIO/NEWSPAPER/
NO GARMENTS THAT SHOWED TOO MUCH SKIN. SKIRK BELOW MY KNEES..THE BLOUSE TO COVER PERPERLY..NO SKIN TIGHT..I WAS A TEEN IN HIGH..70-74..
SHE KNEW WHAT I HAD IN MY BOOK BAG..SHE KNEW WHAT WAS AT SCHOOL..BUT THAT ASRE KELP MY MAGNIFIERS THAT I NEEDED AND HID THEM..THEN WHINED WHY I COULD NOT DO MY SCHOOL WORK..
IF THEY WERE ALIVE TODAY ..IT WOULD BE WORSE..THEY SAY..OH NO BARBARA YER CAN''T USE COMPUTER...
I am awere they want to dress as their peers..no yer the ones that buy her clothes..therefore they abide by yer rules not their peers..Now I love music with a good beat..Sade for one..Yes ye can..she may not like it..Get in her face..ye the parent..do yer duty..My mother was 16 with me..It changed her life..she had to drop out of school,marry my dad,that marriage did not last..Yer ever seen a grown woman cry in front of her fisrt born as I am adult..Her words hurt me..That one time messed her life up..She told me the truth..I knew it.She too bloody young to have me..Not only that a phy handicapped child..She could not handle it. I did every thing in my power to not have children.. Foster mother drove that piont home daily..She hated me and others in foster care..Yes there was abuse in them..She said Barbara yer have no business having kids yer can''t take care of..
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by patsy2007-2009 October 29, 2007 8:00 PM EDT
Out of 134 students 5 said yes to having ****al intercorse. Now we know not all said yes because they were afraid. And not all kids go to an adult/friend so if the child does not speak we have no way of knowing, I understand birth control can damage them in the future, and even the most caring and focused parent will know as much as they would like to. I do not considered my self a bad parent and I know were my child is @ but there will come a time (when she is older) that I cannot be after her at all time, unless I disrespect her privacy and have a camera in her room, her back pack etc...This is not fair for the parents "i know" but my point is if your child and the other both decided to have s e x and she comes out pregnant and she never told you about her s e x acts with that other boy...WHAT THEN??? Is it the schools fault, the parents, the child, or who''s?

I see this as a good idea since most children do not trust there parents enough to come and say, and with all you posting about this is wrong and how you say they want to show you raise your children.. it is parents like you who force children not to seek for your advise, or even go to a Dr. since they are afraid they are going to tell the parents. That is my point!!
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by yoopermom October 29, 2007 7:47 PM EDT
The pill will prevent pregnancy 98% of the time if used correctly. It will not prevent STDs. Unfortunately, pregnancy is not the worst that could happen to these kids.
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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 7:42 PM EDT
Amen, global_chick.
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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 7:42 PM EDT
Amen, global_chick.
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by grammawhamma October 29, 2007 7:41 PM EDT
mediamomma: I am sorry to hear what happened to your daughter. I would think it would not be a problem in her case to have her excused from s.e.x education classes.

But what about all the other children...should they be denied s.e.x education because of your daughter''s horrid experience? No! Ignorance is not bliss...it is dangerous.
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by global_chick October 29, 2007 7:34 PM EDT
It''s not the school''s job to teach about ***. It is a parent''s job. If they don''t like the way I am raising my children with regard to *** ed, tough. Unless a child is being neglected or physically harmed in some fashion, they have no right to dictate a child''s upbringing, including when a child should or should not learn about ***. The 99 percent of kids who will engage in promiscuous activity thanks to the idiocy of these board members far outweighs any perceived "benefits" for the one percent who supposedly can''t talk to their parents.
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