Comments on: Maine Advocate Defends School Pill Policy

Head Of Portland School Nurses Defends Birth Control For Middle-Schoolers Who Have Sex

[dmhphils]

There are a lot of parents out there that just don''''t CARE.

Posted by erasmus6 at 11:14 PM : Oct 29, 2007
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I don''t buy that.....if you really don''t care, then your kid would be on the street instead of in school. Lazy, ignorant, distracted, busy....I buy.

[dmhphils]

And District Attorney Stephanie Anderson warned health professionals that they were illegally failing to report underage ***.

The keyword here is "illegally" and Rowe is promoting this circus invironment in our schools. Let''s make it safe for our kids to break the law with illegal underage sxx......what kind of nonsense??? And her husband is the Maine Attorney General......I guess she is wearing the pants......he is the chief law enforcement officer in the state of Maine and is looking the other way.

[erasmus6]

"If the school wants to do something to help, why don''''t they get parents involved," posted by noseonurface

Maybe the school has tried to get the parents involved. The problem is we don''t KNOW what all the school has done, maybe this is a last resort? There are a lot of parents out there that just don''t CARE.

[dmhphils]

When my son was in high school, I heard quite by accident that he had not attended a particular class 9 times. I ask the teacher why I was not told and isn''t it the policy of the school to notify parents after so many absences? They said yes, but did not notify me. I was angry and told the teacher she would be reported to the administration office, which I did. I want to be involved in what happens to my children, especially at school. If the school wants to do something to help, why don''t they get parents involved, instead of having the fatalist attitude that if they are not going to do it, we will? Initiate a program to inform parents with statistics about fornication among the students. Alarm those that are ignorant of what is going on if they are that stupid. But don''t take over the job of the parents because they have abdicated their duty as parents because they have to go to work. There is no excuse for skipping out on being a parent.

[erasmus6]

"If parents really want an 11 year old on the pill, let them take off work, take the girl to their own doctor and get the pill prescribed there." posted by likeitis5050

That would be great but they probably aren''t doing it.
Like I said, I am not for the pill, but I do think that condoms and education should be available. When we are talking about DISEASE then that means these kids would be spreading it to others and if that is happening then someone needs to be protecting those kids if the parents aren''t going to.

We are talking about ONE school here, that''s it. They are obviously having a serious problem or they wouldn''t be resorting to this.

[dmhphils]

I hate to tell you this but it is rare now a days for kids to wait till they are married to have s-e-x.
Posted by erasmus6 at 10:41 PM : Oct 29, 2007

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Believe me, it is not a surprize to me and I did not grow up that way either, waiting for true love. I know there are no guarentees, but you can give them the best advantage by teaching them and living a good example before them.

There must be something in their lives that serves as their foundation and anchor.....something that never changes or moves. For my boys, that is Jesus. They still have a free will and can choose otherwise, but they have learned from the time they were small to honor the Lord and give Him control of your life, because His love is steadfast and unmovable.

[erasmus6]

"You probably won''''t believe this, but I have two sons, one 24 the other 22, and both are still virgin." posted by noseonurface

I have two girls, one 28 the other is 26 and they are no longer virgins. I raised them the same as you but they chose not to wait. Now they haven''t been having s-e-x since a young age though. One was a virgin up until a year ago the other it has been a few years. Here it seems that most are getting married later, like in their thirties.

My girls have always been open in talking to me about things. In fact I can tell you that MOST of their friends WERE s-e-xually active at a young age. One of their friends who was VERY s-e-xually active came from a very religious family.

I hate to tell you this but it is rare now a days for kids to wait till they are married to have s-e-x. And any number of circumstances could be the cause. Lousy parenting is one but also the people they meet are another. Like I said if they meet that special boy or girl and they have a different "outlook" on things, that can change things in a big way. There are no guarantees that when you raise your kids to have certain beliefs, that those belief won''t change over time.

[dmhphils]

since when is it the school''''s job to set up shop and provide birth control clinics inside schools for students? If parents really want an 11 year old on the pill, let them take off work, take the girl to their own doctor and get the pill prescribed there. What next? Will schools feel obliged to to do pap smears for the ''''busy parents''''? How far behind is ''''abortions, 4th hour, room 104''''? This is insane...Rowe is insane...and parents who decided this was the job of public education are just plain lazy.

Posted by likeitis5050 at 09:53 PM : Oct 29, 2007
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Nice post.....agree, agree, agree!

[likeitis5050]

Rowe is a loose cannon...why does it surprise anyone that she is standing to fight for her decision to ram her values and convictions down every one''s throat?
The issue here isn''t whether or not parents are doing ''their job'' of teaching *** education to the degree that 11 year old girls have enough self-respect, or fear of getting pregnant, getting STDs, or AIDs to abstain from ***. It''s not even about how and where an 11 year old would be, unsupervised, to be in any situation that would lead to ***. Bad parenting aside...since when is it the school''s job to set up shop and provide birth control clinics inside schools for students? If parents really want an 11 year old on the pill, let them take off work, take the girl to their own doctor and get the pill prescribed there. What next? Will schools feel obliged to to do pap smears for the ''busy parents''? How far behind is ''abortions, 4th hour, room 104''? This is insane...Rowe is insane...and parents who decided this was the job of public education are just plain lazy.

But, boy oh boy...do the young boys at this school have some great sexual experiences in store for them...courtesy of lazy a..s..s parents who put their own daughters ''up for grabs''. Boys will be boys takes on a whole new meaning in this ''little community''. Can''t you just hear young boys hearing about this saying, "I wanna move THERE!!''

[michellem99-2009]

Gramma no her parents did not tell her..they did the act in front of her in the bedroom their bedroom..I have gone thru the change myself...no periods.no problem..but when a senior foster parent told me once a month I will fall off the roof..What the hell was she telling..It made no sense..So I got my period and had no idea..Years ago I went to visit my real mother..she asked me what was wrong with my baby sister she was 14..I asked one thing..did she have her first period..huh..Did she..If not she will before I leave..I was right..That girl had no pads ..nothing..What is wrong ..I gave her what I had with me..Ladies.no beating around the bush..They will have their periods ..they are there so it is a rite of passage from little girl to becoming a woman..They are not to bear young, they children. That period is there monthly to remimd them they can bear babies...I can hear it not my girl..oh yes..That they can do..sure they will if the cute one that uses the line if ye love me ye will do..No sah..

[dmhphils]

If a young person could see in advance the person that was going to become their partner for life and they saw them in the arms of another person, what would be their reaction. Would they think, wow, I hope my husband or wife to be is learning how to kiss and make love with that other person so that when we get married, we will be experienced? No, they would want their future partner to be pure and vice versa.....your partner would want you to be pure as well. We are training them up to deal with this most important area of their lives as if they were going to Payless to pick out a pair of shoes that fits.

[dmhphils]

By the time you find the condom he''''s probably already done it numerous times.


Posted by erasmus6 at 08:35 PM : Oct 29, 2007
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You probably won''t believe this, but I have two sons, one 24 the other 22, and both are still virgin. People may think that is backward and oldfashion, but they are saving themselves for that special person that God has chosen for them and they understand the consequences of a lapse in patience and self-control. They believe that TRUE LOVE WAITS.

[dmhphils]

But isn''''t that one of the problems? Parents aren''''t always teaching their kids right from wrong and even if they do, sometimes all it takes is for them to think they are madly in love with some boy and "right and wrong" and "the guilt" go right out the window!!

Posted by erasmus6 at 08:31 PM : Oct 29, 2007
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I think we have not taught them what "love" is. Love is not self-satisfying, but if you really love someone, you want the best for that person.....you would want to preserve their purity, not destroy it because you have no self-control....and anyway, "I have a condom" "and if you really love me, you will let me". I agree that parents need an overhaul too in their thinking, but the competition is tough.....when the tv and movies are protraying lust as "love", and young people have hormones doing double time. It is a challenge but I cannot accept that giving them the tools for promiscuity is the answer and neither do most of the parents according to this article.

[erasmus6]

"Heartbroken enough to sit down with your son and explain to him the seriousness of what he is contemplating and the consequences and the fact that it is wrong." posted by noseonurface

By the time you find the condom he''s probably already done it numerous times.

[erasmus6]

noseonurface

"Public school systems have no right to intervene in the function of the family to this degree."

They wouldn''t have to if the parents were doing their jobs!!

"Since when does an eleven year old, or 12-18 year old, have the AUTHORITY to choose when it comes to matters like this,"

They don''t seem to be having any problem in CHOOSING to have s-e-x!

"When they are taught the difference between right and wrong, their conscience will guide them."

But isn''t that one of the problems? Parents aren''t always teaching their kids right from wrong and even if they do, sometimes all it takes is for them to think they are madly in love with some boy and "right and wrong" and "the guilt" go right out the window!!

[dmhphils]

How would you really react if your little 11 year old Tommy came home from school one day and you found a package of condoms in his jeans? Can you honestly say you would be happy and blissful? Would you be excited about his new hobby of experimenting with *** with multiple partners? No! You would be heart broken I hope! Heartbroken enough to sit down with your son and explain to him the seriousness of what he is contemplating and the consequences and the fact that it is wrong.

[dmhphils]

Why doesn''t anyone want to use the word "wrong" anymore for anything? Children are blessed with such a tender conscience that is still sensitive, at least until it is desensitized through the efforts of the media and liberal parents. When they are taught the difference between right and wrong, their conscience will guide them. They should not only be taught right and wrong, but the consequences of right and wrong. Birth control will not remove the consequences of wrong behavior which is what the school board wants to do. The consequences of proliferating a life-style of promiscuous relationships without commitment will be devastating. We will actually be preparing our children to fail in marriage in the future.

[dmhphils]

Public school systems have no right to intervene in the function of the family to this degree. Parents want to give permission to their children to use the clinic for emergency use, and once they have the permission, they can acquire birth control if they "so choose". Since when does an eleven year old, or 12-18 year old, have the AUTHORITY to choose when it comes to matters like this, and since when does the school have the AUTHORITY to make that decision for the parents??? They have overstepped their bounds and Nurse Rowe is leading the way! Parents! Oppose this action! Take back the control over your kids.....its your job.

[dmhphils]

I our house, se-x is a open topic
there''''s nothing she''''s not allowed to talk about.
birth control is hers for the asking
So far, she has no interest nor time, but then she''''s only 13
either way, we let her know, that it''''s her decision

....oh and of course I tell her
if I were to catch her in the act?
...I''''d kill the punk who''''s with her
nothing personal
I''''m a Dad, it''''s my job. :))

Posted by billpl at 07:21 PM : Oct 29, 2007
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Why would you "kill" the guy you caught her with when you are the one who paved the way for her to do what is now angered you? ......"birth control is hers for the asking.....what kind of idiot are you? You''re a dad.....that''s your job? You have no idea what your job is as a dad obviously. Your philosophy is a big part of the problem today. You better get ready to kill that guy.....cause it won''t be long if its not too late already.

[grammawhamma]

Most eleven year olds can''t remember to brush their teeth...you really think they will remember to take the pill daily?