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Thousands Of Prisoners Are On The Fire Lines In Southern California

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by thgdriver October 28, 2007 4:31 PM EDT
As far a prisoners go, I''ll run this by you, let me know what you think.

The prisoners in my county, arrested for minor crimes like shoplifting and such are taken out and must pick up trash along our Interstate Highways.

A few months ago some body lost control of their pickup truck and killed a few.
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by Krazcarl October 28, 2007 1:42 PM EDT
bobacorn...you have no idea what your talking about you quoting some idiot that makes you an idiot or just plain lieng fool.
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by bobacorn October 28, 2007 1:34 PM EDT
One more thing ... They don''t call it "the farm" for nothing. The prison industry is farming these prisoners for a cash crop - your tax dollars !!
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by bobacorn October 28, 2007 1:29 PM EDT
O yeah, here''s what God thinks ...

"The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;"
- Isa 61:1

"The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness'' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.
But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore."
- Isa 42:21-22

"I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house."
- Isa 42:6-7
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by bobacorn October 28, 2007 1:27 PM EDT
I would bet these "criminals" don''t have much choice whether they rot in a steel and concrete hell or risk their lives for $1 an hour. In many places prisoners are charged for their imprisonment. The majority of these indiviuals are poor and cannot afford to pay for the cost of their incarceration. Not able to pay they are forced by the court or the prison to take whatever work they are given. I think this case here is an extreme example of the "value of the work performed" exceeding the value of wages paid. If this was happening anywhere else it would be called slavery and that is just what this is. Slavery never ended, it just got a new name, "incarceration".
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by brianbwb-2009 October 28, 2007 1:27 PM EDT
It''''s the same thing. You don''''t think jury''''s bring a lot of baggage to the table when they pass judgement?
Posted by barbaraf4

You illustrate my point perfectly, just because someone is called a criminal doesn''t mean they are somehow evil people meriting the disdain in your earlier post, it simply means that they "may" have disobeyed law. And some of those laws shouldn''t exist anyway.

I am, of course not referring to violent psychopathic criminals, or greedy "white collar" thieves, I refer to the ones in jail for minor infractions, like the aforementioned joint smoker.

The label criminal blinds many to understanding, because of the stigma. A question, after you have hypothetically evacuated, then discovered that prisoners did indeed save your home, would you then refuse to accept the effort?

If no, then at least you are consistent with your earlier post, but somehow I don''t think so.
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by Krazcarl October 28, 2007 1:22 PM EDT
What is wrong with you people? Charles Manson is not fighting fires. We have one million People in prison and most we be released lets give them something to do save the taxpayer some cash 9/10ths are nonviolent. unless you want a unending series of lookup and release we need to instill self respect and a seance of self worth. This is a good thing a very good thing. enacting longer sentences does no good as we have seen torturing folks is of no use makes them bitter and easily justifies there next crime. The hilarious thing is the christen right wants the most foul treatment and what did Jesus say about those imprisoned. instilling self respect in a man /woman is a good thing and will benefit us all in the long run. Warehousing criminals and making them bitter is good for no one lets put these men and women to use save on taxes and cut repeat offenders these people need help and will be released if we don''t help we will pay the price,
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by barbaraf4 October 28, 2007 1:16 PM EDT
"Judges in America have been long known to pass their own judgment, not societies''" Posted by brianbwb

It''s the same thing. You don''t think jury''s bring a lot of baggage to the table when they pass judgement?
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by brianbwb-2009 October 28, 2007 12:58 PM EDT
society''''s judgement already passed on these individuals.
Posted by barbaraf4

Judges in America have been long known to pass their own judgment, not societies'', examples are a numerous as the days of the US''s age.
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by bobacorn October 28, 2007 12:58 PM EDT
*O yeah, i forgot to mention the politicians who are too afraid to do anything about the unjust laws on the books that were penned by the lobbyists for the prison corporations
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