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[menofoz]

Grand Lake Theater
3200 Grand Avenue, Oakland, California

A True Hero on 9/11
and ever since then...

With Special Guests Peter Dale Scott and Cindy Sheehan

William Rodriguez, who was working as custodian in-charge of three 110-story stairwells in the North Tower of the World Trade Center on the day it was destroyed, and who personally saved fifteen others from certain death, will share his harrowing experience of the 9-11 tragedy at a special presentation,

At the White House on five occasions and recognized as a %u201CNational Hero%u201D by the Senate of Puerto Rico, William Rodriguez, in possession of a master key to all of the stairwell doors at each floor in the 110 story building that day, personally saved the lives of 15 people and aided NYC firefighters in saving hundreds of others.

Though he advocated for the creation of the 9-11 Commission and testified before the commission members -- his private testimony before the Commission was excluded from its final report. Rodriguez is now raising questions about what he describes as serious gaps in the official story and is calling for a deeper, more energetic and international based investigation into every possible aspect, failure and contributing circumstance leading to the tragedy.

[brianbwb-2009]

brianbwb - nope - still not clear.
Let me re-ask based on your last response:

Do you believe that George Schultz (CEO, Bechtel Corp.), and VP Cheney ("ex"CEO Halliburton) together personally ordered 9-11? And that Bush merely followed along like a blind puppet? Is that closer to what you truly believe? YES or NO. And if the answer is "YES", please offer up a short explanation of just HOW they pulled off this monumental feat of murder and treason?
Posted by erichsh

1. Yes.

2. They bribed, paid, and threatened, so it happened.

It was the culmination of years of planning. During the Afghan Russian war, who was the head of the CIA?

[menofoz]

Posted by erichsh at 02:19 AM : Oct 25, 2007

Oh so sorry to burst your brain. NO

[menofoz]

Bush Seeks To Restrict Hill Probes Of Sept. 11, The Washington Post: 1/30/02. And Bush Asks Daschle to Limit Sept. 11 probes, ALLPOLITICS, CNN : 1/29/02.

Cheney: Investigators, Keep Out, Newsweek Magazine: 10/21/02.

10/16/2007 NIST CAN''T EXPLAIN
We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse WTC 1,2 & 7

A 32-story building burns for more than 24 hours and does not collapse. It does not collapse because buildings made of steel and concrete, despite what we are led to believe, do not typically fall to the ground because of fire, even a protracted fire as witnessed in Madrid. In fact before September 11th, 2001, no building had ever collapsed as a result of fire alone. In past events, high-rise buildings burned for as long as six days before the fires were extinguished and yet remained standing.


DID NOT COLLASPE
ABC News: Empire State Building Sustained CrashEmpire State Building Hit by Military Plane, 14 Killed. Sept. 11 ... The plane struck the building 913 feet above the ground, at 34th Street in midtown. ...
abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92525&page=1 - Similar pages

[erichsh]

What are you saying, menofoz? Did Bush personally order 9-11? YES or NO. Don''t be ashamed to admit if you believe it. I''ll be ashamed of you instead.

[menofoz]

Bush and Cheney Block 9-11 Investigation
By Mike Hersh
Oct 24, 2002

George Bush is blocking a full public inquiry into 9-11. Richard Cheney threatens Democrats to keep quiet.

Daschle: Bush, Cheney Urged No Sept. 11 Inquiry, Reuters News Service: 5/26/02.


WHITE HOUSE RESISTED FULL FUNDING

WHITE HOUSE OPPOSED TIME EXTENSION FOR FINISHING COMMISSION''S WORK

WHITE HOUSE DENIES REQUEST FOR PRESIDENTIAL DAILY BRIEFS: The commission has struggled with the White House for access to the "Presidential Daily Brief" (PDB),

WHITE HOUSE DENIES ACCESS TO PANEL''S OWN NOTES

PRESIDENT''S CHIEF COUNSEL TRIES TO INFLUENCE PANEL: Top White House counsel Alberto Gonzales tried to manipulate the 9/11 Commission

WHITE HOUSE TRIES TO LIMIT BUSH''S TESTIMONY TO ONE HOUR: On February 25, 2004, President Bush and Vice President *** Cheney announced "strict limits"

[erichsh]

I''d suggest you go one step further. Rather than refrain from mocking "Churchianity", why not actually swallow hard and try to Respect those lemonade/bromide swillers? Give them credit for attempting to live decent, upstanding lives according to their Christian faith? At least try not to lump them into the same boat as those savage, bloodthirsty Christians of the Middle Ages?

[menofoz]

The summary goes on to note that the FBI had been investigating Bin Laden family activities in the U.S. prior to Sept. 11. One relative of Osama had a relationship with a suspected terrorist organization that had been investigated " but for some reason [FBI] agents were pulled off the trail," according to the BBC report. Speaking of similar previous U.S. behavior, a former head of the U.S. visa bureau in Saidi Arabia says on camera, " I complained there. I complained here in Washington ... and I was ignored. What I was doing was giving visas to terrorists, recruited by the CIA and Osama bin Laden to come back to the United States for training to be used in the war in Afghanistan against the then Soviets."
The Sidney summary concludes, " The [BBC] program said it had been told by a highly placed source in a US intelligence agency there had always been "constraints" on investigating Saudis, but under [present] President George Bush it had become much worse. After the elections, the intelligence agencies were told to "back off" from investigating the bin Laden family and the Saudi royals. The policy was reversed after September 11, it reported."

[erichsh]

It''s very simple, IceMan. You (plural, humanists) go about your life ascribing to your set of rules, ignore and internally dismiss the perceived sleights of Christians you think want you to burn in hell. In turn, Christians will not attempt to burn heretics such as yourself at the stake as they may have tried to do 500 years ago, but instead will similarly respect your worldview and leave you alone. Fair enough? As for myself, I straddle a middle ground, but, that''s not relevant here.

[iceman_1960]

And for the record, I do not mock "Churchianity."

It is a harmless and pleasant cultrual diversion. People get to put on their "Sunday Best" and have a pleasant community experience together.

Sometimes there"s even folk singing with guitar music, and lemonade afterwards.