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School Board Approves Birth Control Options For Students In Grades 6 Through 8

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by michellem99-2009 October 19, 2007 4:22 PM EDT
Would yer do some thing about the males as they are the ones that force sexx on the girls by any means they can to break the girl''s morals down to the point of abuse just so he get himself off and the hell with the girl. If is her problem now so he thinks. So far we have talked about our girls there are boys that largely free to do as they want where them Mums.
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by sahia-2009 October 19, 2007 4:03 PM EDT
At least you are thinking about the problem, most people don''t. I can tell you one thing that makes all of this wrong; it is against God. God said no
s-e-x before marriage. I always hesitate to bring this up right away because people usually get scared and stop talking at that point. (happens all the time) They just think I''m some religious fanatic who has been brainwashed. I''m actually a well educated woman who went to school for scientific research. I realized, if you are a true scientist, you can''t explain everything. Scientists come up with theories all day long that have no logical basis. Evolution, for one. They have never found even ONE single missing link..how odd. It takes more faith to believe in evolution than to believe in God. I know someone that isn''t a christian will not understand God''s commands, because they can''t. They are blind to the scriptures. I was just hoping to appeal to logic. Have a good day, erasmus6.
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by erasmus6 October 19, 2007 3:47 PM EDT
"I''''m sorry, I don''''t see any difference, you are giving the kids the tools to continue in a behavior that is dangerous...."

The key word there is "continue". If kids are already having s-e-x they ARE going to continue and isn''t it better that they have something that will help prevent disease and pregnancy? A condom isn''t going to MAKE them continue, they will continue whether they have access to it or not. And when a child first makes the decision to have s-e-x, the chances are they are going to do it, condoms or not.

"We send drug addicts to counseling, among other interventions, why not 11 year olds." posted by sahia

Where I live children are taught from an early age about drugs. I find that you can teach children things but that doesn''t always mean they are going to listen. There are just too many different circumstances that can happen to change the way they think. It just takes that one particular friend or boy to change their minds and there ain''t nothing you are going to do about it. My kids are grown and I didn''t have too many problems with them but if I was raising them today, I would be doing whatever I could to protect them.
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by sahia-2009 October 19, 2007 3:38 PM EDT
11 year olds are not hard-headed adults yet, and they aren''t quite know-it-all teenagers. We still have a chance to reach them and change their lives. I have 4 children; 15, 13, 11, 9 year old girls. I have also worked with 6th through 8th graders for 10 years. I know what they face, I have counseled some of them. I know 11 year olds can get pregnant. One of my good friends adopted a baby that was given up by an eleven year old mother. I don''t mean to be sarcastic in my approach to this, but I''m just hoping that some people will think this through a little more.
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by sahia-2009 October 19, 2007 3:32 PM EDT
I''m sorry, I don''t see any difference, you are giving the kids the tools to continue in a behavior that is dangerous....and with the go-ahead to be promiscuous, these kids will have many partners. You know the odds are that the more partners, the more chance for both scenarios. If a kid has a drug problem, it is addicting, and as you say, once they have had s-e-x, they are addicted. We send drug addicts to counseling, among other interventions, why not 11 year olds. When they approach the school nurse about wanting birth control, it should be looked at as a problem, just like drugs. dangerous
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by erasmus6 October 19, 2007 3:31 PM EDT
Parents should be made to take parenting and common sense classes BEFORE they have kids. If they don''t, they can''t have them!

Of course now a days they aren''t waiting until they are married to have kids are they? In fact a good many aren''t even reaching adulthood before having a kid. KIDS ARE HAVING KIDS. It amazes me how some people are so stupid that they can''t see how big of a problem this is.
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by erasmus6 October 19, 2007 3:22 PM EDT
"If an 11 year old had a drug problem, would you supply him with needles? Why not, he is already involved in it, let''''s just keep it going." posted by sahia

Okay now you are just talking stupid. With so many kids doing drugs these days, if they came up with something that would prevent your child from becoming addicted to drugs would you give it to them? OR would you just take the chance that they will make the right decision on their own. Take the chance that someone they know won''t influence them to take drugs.

Society today is going downhill and I don''t see it changing anytime soon. There are just too many stupid and lazy parents out there and even if they grow a brain and start teaching their kids it is probably too late. Once kids start having s-e-x they are not going to stop.

Obviously this school is seeing a major problem or they wouldn''t do it. This could save many childrens lives. Like I said I don''t agree with the pills but having condoms available could not only stop pregnancies but aids and other diseases as well.

If we were living in a perfect world, parents would be looking after their children and teaching them right from wrong. BUT we are NOT living in a perfect world, more and more children are getting pregnant and diseases. If parents can''t live up to their responsibilities then someone else has to do it for them. If a child gets pregnant, she is the one paying the price. If a child gets a disease then many could be paying the price.
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by sahia-2009 October 19, 2007 3:03 PM EDT
Like I keep saying, the pill doesn''t protect against stds, aids or hepatitis. Nobody seems to want to address this though. They keep talking about pregnancy. While pregnancy is most certainly a huge concern, I think it pails in comparison to other dangers.
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by sahia-2009 October 19, 2007 2:56 PM EDT
ERASMUS6 ....let me see...according to your logic..If an 11 year old had a drug problem, would you supply him with needles? Why not, he is already involved in it, let''s just keep it going. If he had a drinking problem, would you go buy beer for him? Why not, he likes getting drunk, right? These kids may end up dead from these activites. This is the same principal when applied to this article. This is dangerous activity that they are involved in due to aids and hepetitis. We don''t give them the means to continue, we step in and help them out of the situation, by informing them of the dangers and starting programs that graphically give the reprocussions of s-e-x. That seems like a better use for everyones'' time and money. These 11 year are not mature enough to use birth control correctly anyway. I wonder if some of the commentors on this sight have ever looked into the danger of promiscuity?
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by erasmus6 October 19, 2007 2:44 PM EDT
"...don''''t help these kids to grow up way too soon." posted by canelibar

I don''t think you get it. The problem is that the vast majority of them have probably ALREADY "grown up too soon" and have lousy parents that teach them nothing. Why do you think that the school is doing this? Just for the hell of it???? There must already be a major problem for them to be doing this.

We can say that the parents need to be keeping track of their kids more but that doesn''t mean they are going to do it. Do you think that the LAZY parents are all of a sudden going to start doing what they need to do? AIN''T GOING TO HAPPEN. Do you think that the kids that are already s-e-xually active are going to stop now because their parents all of a sudden get a brain and tell them not to? AIN''T GOING TO HAPPEN.
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by sahia-2009 October 19, 2007 1:40 PM EDT
*** with a nonspousal minor under 14 years old is considered illegal in Maine.....how did this birth control program get passed by the school board????
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by sahia-2009 October 19, 2007 1:37 PM EDT
don''''t help these kids to grow up way too soon.

Outraged mom in SC
posted by canelibar

Exactly!
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by canelibar October 19, 2007 1:07 PM EDT
The idea of this makes me absolutely sick! Since when should schools be primary medical facilities? These are children and they say once parents give permission for any treatment, they have no access to information regarding their childrens'' treatment...one word for you...ABOMINABLE!!! They have authority to offer birth control, but what if one of these children has contracted a sexually-transmitted disease because they have ventured into an ''adult world.'' What then, who is going to treat it? What if the child is afraid to tell their parents? This could destroy the health of the child and their future, sickening! Maybe instead of pushing safe ***, they should work on counseling children against the dangers of ***, not offering the means and the methods to do it!! If I lived in Maine, my children would have been removed from that school system as soon as the vote passed...It''s the *** school board, they should stick with education issues not facilitating health care!! If there are kids falling through the cracks at home, call DSS or CPS don''t help these kids to grow up way too soon.

Outraged mom in SC
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by susanh6 October 19, 2007 12:50 PM EDT
I think most of the considerations here are irrelevant for this age child. Older kids, maybe you should be discussing pros and cons. BUT These are CHILDREN. They need supervision, more so now than ever since they are being media brainwashed. Instead of pills, the school should be insisting on children being in after-school programs if there is no parent home. During the school day the school should supervise. After school the parents need to take over. If they are off with friends, parents need to KNOW exactly where they are. If you are really keeping tabs, you will notice the heavy relationships before they get too heavy and you can change their course. You will notice the "attitude" change and you need to DO something about it. What I discovered when my daughter developed attitude was that she desperately needed more attention. She got it. It didn''t take long before I got my real daughter back. Don''t let someone else''s son or daughter give your child the attention he or she craves from you. If you don''t give it they will get it in harmful ways.
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by pepperwood2 October 19, 2007 11:42 AM EDT
Where is this Cackling Clinton & Nobel Gore Liberal, (Save the Planet taking US), Religious Agenda has taken this Country???

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by vrum1 October 19, 2007 11:15 AM EDT
So much ignorance in the world. We know the solution, but all we see is the materialistic of it that draws our selfish thinking into a patterning of darkness. The adult lives their life the way they please, showing this is the way a person is suppose to live. No morals, no ethics, no principal to guide a child at such a vulnerable age into their teenage years, which affects their young adult life.

Until the adult of these children accepts those responsible it will continue to critize one another, and compete against of who will have the best of it all.

Pray for Peace, and God Bless You.
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by vrum1 October 19, 2007 11:08 AM EDT
So much ignorance in the world. We know the solution, but all we see is the materialistic of it that draws our selfish thinking into a patterning of darkness. The adult lives their life the way they please, showing this is the way a person is suppose to live. No morals, no ethics, no principal to guide a child at such a vulnerable age into their teenage years, which affects their young adult life.

Until the adult of these children accepts those responsible it will continue to critize one another, and compete against of who will have the best of it all.

Pray for Peace, and God Bless You.
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by vrum1 October 19, 2007 11:06 AM EDT
So much ignorance in the world. We know the solution, but all we see is the materialistic of it that draws our selfish thinking into a patterning of darkness. The adult lives their life the way they please, showing this is the way a person is suppose to live. No morals, no ethics, no principal to guide a child at such a vulnerable age into their teenage years, which affects their young adult life.

Until the adult of these children accepts those responsible it will continue to critize one another, and compete against of who will have the best of it all.

Pray for Peace, and God Bless You.
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by vrum1 October 19, 2007 11:05 AM EDT
So much ignorance in the world. We know the solution, but all we see is the materialistic of it that draws our selfish thinking into a patterning of darkness. The adult lives their life the way they please, showing this is the way a person is suppose to live. No morals, no ethics, no principal to guide a child at such a vulnerable age into their teenage years, which affects their young adult life.

Until the adult of these children accepts those responsible it will continue to critize one another, and compete against of who will have the best of it all.

Pray for Peace, God Bless You.
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by pilee46 October 19, 2007 11:01 AM EDT
As an educator in New York, I believe that by giving birth control pills to 6th grade students will eventually make them believe that it is ok to have *** without worry of pregnancy. However, without proper education on diseases, these youngsters may not think of those consequences until it is too late.
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