Comments on: Phone Companies Muzzled On Eavesdropping

White House Forbids Telecom Companies From Telling Congress About Surveillance Activity

[missingamerica]

I don''t get how it can be a "state secret" if it is only the Administration''s secret.

Or are they finally and completely "the state"?

[yankeerebel7]

Hey let''s just do everything we can to limit the government''s intelligence gathering capabilities! Yeah, it''s not like we''re at war or anything. I mean why would the government ever need to increase it''s capacity to prevent terrorist attacks on US citizens?

[tonic1661]

It does not matter what we think there are so many opinions our freedom of speech is watered down by our numbers and they know that.

As long as we can talk among ourselves and do not PROTEST we are no threat.

[undermyboot]

When this is all over it should make an unbelievable movie don''''t you think

Posted by starleo146 at 04:40 PM : Oct 16, 2007
-------
Assuming it "ends well" for us, and that such movies will be allowed. State Secrets you know....

[starleo146]

What kind of people are you fascist? You don''''''''t care that our Constitution has been thrown in the TRASH? You don''''''''t care that the President is ORDERING people not to testify before Congress. What on earth do you low life sub humans stand for anyway. It''''''''s an INSULT TO ME and ever Veteran who has worn that Uniform. As far as I''''''''m concerned you clowns in the Reich are just as bad if not worse that the Taliban!!! Sieg Heil Bush!!


Posted by MCVet at 12:50 PM : Oct 16, 2007
+ report abuse

Semper Fi Sarge and I''''m with you. When our Government can not follow our Constitution, when it can not seek to allow THIS nation to have a democratic form of Government it''''s time to take it down by what ever means necessary!! SIEG HEIL

Posted by skyk at 01:01 PM : Oct 16, 2007

And I am With Both of You It is a disgrace more Americans do not see what the he11 is going on here

[simonsez40]

Makes me sick to my stomach when our own government is obstructing justice by threatening American corporations........just makes me sick. When can we put this clown in jail?

[lawyertom1]

What are the Shrub afraid of? The truth? Testimony can be made in closed session before the Intelligence Committees [no pun intended], if need be. But Congress, as our spineless representative, is entitled to know what has been going on. If, as is likely, the Shrub and friends have been lying and being nauty boys [shades of Larry the toe tapper], then corrective action should be taken.

P.S. Hey, Georgie. We all know that the program has been abused. So, fess up. It is good for your soul.

[starleo146]

Posted by UnderMyBoot at 04:14 PM : Oct 16, 2007

You are right that is why I said you are not far off at all, in fact in your satire I believe these things could have happened. I put NOTHING past these dudes.When this is all over it should make an unbelievable movie don''t you think. I hope the end is Prison

[lastdance2]

1.) National Security Agency asked Qwest to allow it to conduct electronic surveillance without
a court order in February 2001, six (6) months before the Sept. 11 Terrorist attacks.

2.) The Washington state Supreme Court ruled that a law holding politicians Legally
Accountable for lying is Unconstitutional - Dissenting Justices called the decision
An invitation to Lie with Impunity

3.) Russia and Iran have refused American Oil Companies - Drilling rights within their own countries

4.) Over the past Several Months - American Oil Companies have been purchasing
Oil Pipeline Rights - Surrounding the Interior border of Russia.
Russia - Will now have to pay - American Oil Companies - For its own Right to ship Oil
into Europe.
The Contracts were delivered by VP Cheney and Condoleezza Rice.

The Bush (Nazi) Administration - Now complains that Russia is entering into another
Cold War.

It''s the Same Tactic - Over and Over again ! !

5.) Nuclear Weapons Technology - Sold to Countries - Hostile to the United States

First the Republican (Nazi) Party - Creates the problem.

Then American - Civil Rights - Civil Liberties are Continuously and Purposely
Deteriorated and Eliminated in the name of : National Security

Brought to you by :
The Republican (Nazi) Party - Criminal Corporate (Nazi) America

Lastdance

[undermyboot]

I know that was a satire, but do you think you are far off..
Posted by starleo146 at 03:38 PM : Oct 16, 2007
------
Just because it''s satire does not mean it''s not "illuminating".

When "State Secrets" trumps the law and the plain reading of the Constitution we are in deep trouble. Amazing that so many self-proclaimed "strict constructionists" twist themselves into pretzels excusing the excesses of this "Unitary Executive" administration. But their intent is on power, not on principle.

[micma-2009]

George Bush has started an ill-timed and disastrous war under false pretenses by lying to the American people and to the Congress; he has run a budget surplus into a severe deficit; he has consistently and unconscionably favored the wealthy and corporations over the rights and needs of the population; he has destroyed trust and confidence in, and good will toward, the United States around the globe; he has ignored global warming, to the world''s detriment; he has wantonly broken our treaty obligations; he has condoned torture of prisoners; he has attempted to create a theocracy in the United States; he has wiped his @ss with the Constitution at every opportunity; he has appointed incompetent cronies to positions of vital national importance.



Now, would someone please give him a blowwjob so we can impeach him?

[starleo146]

I got to go but let me ask you this does the government have a lock on our news agencies? Why are they not reporting this? what kind of media do we have if they pursued Bush and Darth Vader like they do Brittaney Spears he would of been in jail a long time age. But it is like undermyboat says maybe they paid visits to the news media, wouldn''t put it pass them would you?

[starleo146]

Posted by UnderMyBoot at 03:19 PM : Oct 16, 2007


I know that was a satire, but do you think you are far off, I don''t these and more we do not know about has probably happened. I think we would be shocked at what they have done. The phone companies should testify and be punished along with Bush and Darth Vader and any other government official. Put them under the jail

[antoniof123]

To Nancy and Harry issue the subpoenas and charge them with contempt of court then throw them in jail. When did this moron become king. Enough is enough I have had it with the Republican party never again.

[starleo146]

You know I was just thinking here Hayden is a military man and was put in charge of CIA Or FBI I forget which now. All this may be connected as well. What job did Hayden have before this change, anyone have a history on Hayden. I really thought it was strange he was considered and they threw Goss out and he is not talking, scared to I bet.I do not think they didn''t re-arrange any dept to there liking, Justice, Supreme court, CIA, FBI.what the he11 is wrong with the judiciary committees going pretty slow here. . Step it up.

[gretagreen]

Maybe someone here remembers the author or name of the book, but I saw an author (probably on jon stewart or the colbert report) who seemed rather sympathetic to the Bush administration who said that they were very afraid of two things: (1) another terrorist attack after 9/11 and (2) criminal charges for their wiretapping actions. So, NO IMMUNITY!!!!

I would like very much to seem them do some time for some crime they committed during their reign. I think they have done many things that should be considered criminal, but don''t know if they could be prosecuted for any of them.

Yea, starleo, if they won''t let us out of our cell contracts, let''s see if we can get a lawyer to file a class action against them.

[starleo146]

The President says he will veto the wiretapping bill if they, the congress, does not allow for immunity, are the Pres. and Darth Vader afraid they will talk, call your congress, No Immunity call or e-mail today.

[undermyboot]

"Calling circle" = Suspicion by association. Of course, you "did nothing wrong." However, your friend''s friend is a suspect. Now YOU become a suspect.

Your boss receives a visit from the FBI. "Sorry sir, we can''t tell you exactly why we are investigating (your name). It''s a national security matter. You understand that, under the Patriot Act, you cannot tell (__)anything about our questions. Now tell us what kind of American (__) is? Does he have any unusual interests?" There goes your promotion & maybe your job. You''ll never know why. Similar things happen at your bank (forget that loan), with your friends, wife, & family (why are they acting strange?), your doctor, your NRA buddies, your kids'' school... Your wife wonders why they asked her about your sexual behavior. "Does he have any unusual fetishes?", they asked her. "Sorry, we cannot discuss why we ask these questions, your husband is a person of interest. Also, you cannot discuss this with him. It would result in a 10-year sentence under the Patriot Act."

But hey, nothing to worry about ''cause you did nothing wrong. ROFLMAO

"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." -- James Madison

[starleo146]

National Security was the excuse a few years ago !!

History repeating itself !!

In August, the previously unknown tape from June 23, 1972, was released. Recorded only a few days after the break-in, it documented Nixon and Haldeman formulating a plan to block investigations by having the CIA falsely claim to the FBI that national security was involved. The tape was referred to as a "smoking gun." With few exceptions, Nixon''''s remaining supporters deserted him. The ten congressmen who had voted against all three articles of impeachment in the committee announced that they would all support impeachment when the vote was taken in the full House. It was almost certain that Nixon would be impeached by the House and removed from office by the Senate.

Posted by IOWEIGN at 01:22 PM : Oct 16, 20

YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT AND PROTEST, PROTEST TO THE CONGRESS AND SENATE MAKE IT LOUD AND CLEAR. WE HAVE TO STOP THIS

[starleo146]

want to get out of my cell phone contract with these guys if they MAY be giving out my private info. I wonder if they''''d let me do that . . .

I could go to working assets. They said they will never give out info without a warrant.

And, no, of course I have nothing to hide. I just like the Constitution.

Posted by gretagreen at 03:07 PM : Oct 16, 2

i WONDER IF WE CAN THREATEN A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT