Comments on: Husband's Calls To Airport Came Too Late

Phoenix Police Say Call Logs Show Authorities Were Warned Too Late To Save Dead Woman

[strawberry47]

God bless you Carol. In these awful set of bad circumstances, that all came together at the most unfortunate time, you needed help. But instead you encountered thugs with badges.

I find it criminal, to shackle someone and leave them alone. And even worse, given that the person needed help. It is simply unforgivable.

These ''law enforcers'' are nothing of the sort.

And something about their story stinks to high heaven.
I cannot imagine how Carol would have managed to get the handcuffs around to her front.

[grammawhamma]

Posters: Read yesterday''s story. She did not cause a disturbance after missing her first flight. She started freaking out 1 hour and 43 minutes later...after she talked to her husband on the phone. I think he said something to her to throw her into a rage. This husband needs to be investigated.

[strawberry47]

God bless you Carol. In these awful set of bad circumstances, that all came together at the most unfortunate time, you needed help. But instead you encountered thugs with badges.

I find it criminal, to shackle someone and leave them alone. And even worse, given that the person needed help. It is simply unforgivable.

These ''law enforcers'' are nothing of the sort.

And something about their story stinks to high heaven.
I cannot imagine how Carol would have managed to get the handcuffs around to her front.

[strawberry47]

God bless you Carol. In these awful set of bad circumstances, that all came together at the most unfortunate time, you needed help. But instead you encountered thugs with badges.

I find it criminal, to shackle someone and leave them alone. And even worse, given that the person needed help. It is simply unforgivable.

These ''law enforcers'' are nothing of the sort.

And something about their story stinks to high heaven.
I cannot imagine how Carol would have managed to get the handcuffs around to her front.

[linfinster]

The flight was overbooked, others showed up before her and got on. She was late getting to the gate. they put her on another flight but she was too hysterical about not getting on that flight, for whatever reason, and needed to be removed from the area as she was screaming, throwing personal items and causing a scene.

For those of you who didn''t understand what lead up to her being dealt with by security ..

[tnt1954]

the town hires a sheriff to protect the flock.
soon he hires all kinds of deputies, costing
the flock an absolute fortune in taxes. the sheriffs
become power mad, and start crying wolf every ten
seconds, cause the flock is now going wild, tired
of being beat up by the sheriffs. and now they
can''t rid of the sheriff who rules over them with
an iron rod. absolute power, corrupts absolutely.
the sheriff has a law passed that everyone must
wear pink sox between the hours of 2 am and 4 am
on friday, saturday and sunday, failure to comply
is punishable by immediate execution. this law
is put in place, to tame the flock. but the flock
keeps revolting, tired of the rod of iron. sheriff
says, take some of the flock and kill them to tame
these ornery critters. as an example to the rest
of that mange.

[jerr11]

It''s over-reaction as usual.

These trigger happy or handcuff happy cops are always too willing to display their power and arrogance when it comes to administering their idea of law and order.

What in the world were they thinking of when they treated an unarmed woman with the roughness and brutality they meted out to this poor woman?

It''s Abu Ghraib all over again. No, no porno shots, just pure arrogance and a complete disregard for some human decency and understanding.

Get these cops to jail where they belong!!

And put Mike Nifong in there with them!

JUSTICE GONE WILD again, American style!!

[donbl1]

Why was she not escorted to rehab? Going to rehab is scary (I have been told) and having a husband escort her would have helped.

Can not believe she was traveling by herself. Obviously, she was not ready for independent travel - and the potential frustrations. Poor thing. What a way to finish out.......... totally afraid, shackled and in a police holding cell........

Family needs to take a hard look at themselves on this one.

[andor3]

Yes this woman is dead for no reason, having committed no crime. A clear case of wrongful death and the parties who contributed must be identified, punished, and compensation given to her family--not just as punishment for the wrongdoing on the part of the TSA/cops but also to make a clear example that this sort of behavior will not be tolerated again.

She was murdered by police. Anyone of us would have been murdered. The police are out of control. I have been to that airport. The people are the nicest I''ve ever seen. I believe the police were confronted with a person who didn''t immediately cooperate and performed an excution so the rest of us will becareful to fall in line. Instead of public safety, the police provide public executions. Who can justify the death of a 45 year old woman in an airport? Call it what it is. Death of the rule of law, the police are above the law. So is the Bush Administration. So is the religous right.

[tnt1954]

all police go through rigourous psychological
examinations day by day, just as in the military.
they therefore have the best mental health of anyone
in the world. politicians and others never have
to have a mental status exam. when i saw the video
on tv, i saw no woman causing a disturbance. but
i did see the police, huge and burly, barging through
the airport crowd and just ''taking one out of the herd''. like in rush hour traffic, which of the
thousands of speeders on the freeway will the chp
take out of the herd for branding. with a hot iron.
of course, the public will believe this was a poor mentally
ill woman. the usual excuse. as in the song
''for what it''s worth'' by buffalo springfield, step
outta line, the Man come and take you away. nowadays
they just come for you, even if you don''t step outta
line. they have quotas to meet. and cops get
bored sittting around with nothing to do. they
saw a hot chick on the surveillance camera, and
ordered her brought to the holding cell for entertainment. i wouldn''t put it past them.

[magoo2u1]

"Just another story that makes me not want to fly..."

You got that right. I don''t fly , the authorities are cracking down on silly things in an attempt to convince us it''s safe to fly while leaving huge loopholes for the murderers to walk through. Why would they do this ? Because it''s cheaper to pretend to make it safe than to actually make it safe. We are not safer because this woman is dead. It did not advance security or safety.
Peek behind the curtain Dorothy, the wizard''s security is just a facade.

[magoo2u1]

Hey ! The woman was 3/4 of the way across the country without incident, talked to her husband via cell phone during her 2 hour layover. What caused the problem ? I haven''t seen any report as to what tripped her off. Was she denied boarding because her hands were trembling ? I have not seen any report on what occured to start this incident. Why did she yell that she wasn''t a terrorist ? Who accused her of something? The airport gestapo seems to be giving everyone the iron boot under the guise of security. One passenger was arrested for complaining about poor service to a flight attendant. You are giving away your rights and the expectation of good service under the threat of arrest on trumped up charges if you don''t just accept it. She shouldn''t have died for trying to get treatment for alcohol abuse. Trembling hands are not a sign of terrorist activity. Nervous behavior is one of the signs the gestapo looks for but in this case she was seeking help and had already complete part of her journey without incident. But for the plane change she would still be alive.

[truthheals]

70 min later! Now that''s love.

[schmoo58]

I would like to thank the airport security for their efforts to protect the public. You can never be to sure these days. Yes, it''s a sad situation, but who''s to know she was not capable of hurting others in her state of mind. It''s sad we have to be so careful now days...but WAKE UP AMERICA this is the real world and the situations we live in today. Policeman are damned if the don''t and damned if they do and unless you''re in that situation, you don''t know how you react. Give the people who are protecting you a break!

[sharpe27]

Under my boot: Thanks for the comedic idiotic paranoid statement, until you or anyone else can prove that she died because of police misconduct, you would be advised to stick to what is known about the situation and not make crazy loony accusations about an event you were''nt witness to. Once again the nutcake agenda shows itself.

[itraveler-2009]

Just another story that makes me not want to fly...

[undermyboot]

"...the blame if any is on the woman and her family."
Posted by sharpe27 at 11:52 AM : Oct 06, 2007
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When you are in the custody of the thugs with badges, your welfare is their responsibility. When you are an apologist for the thugs with badges, you need a good beating and arrest for resisting. What a moron.

[linfinster]

A tragic situation for sure. I''m sure that the 8 minutes that the police claim lapsed between the time she was put in the room and the time they checked on her it is possible she could have asphyxiated herself. Did they over react? Perhaps, I personally feel that if I was screaming in a terminal and was approached by Police and was not calming down that I would have to be dealt with. Cuffed and escorted away from the public isn''t out of the realm of options and appears acceptable to me. So they put her in a room away from the public until she could calm down.
I hope we can get the whole real story. Until then I''m siding with the Police with this. Mental issues are very difficult to handle. This could have just as easily been a woman who could have attacked someone in the state she was in. I feel bad that she died, but the circumstances are relative to her actions that day. The family shouldn''t have let her go alone! There has to be some responsibility there too!

[sharpe27]

I can''t believe the paranoid comments and delusions I am reading here from the blame the cops crowd. As more and more information comes to light (video, husbands concerns) it becomes more obvious to the sane that the
blame if any is on the woman and her family. People who have been commenting on how she died and what policies were in place, have absolutely no firsthand knowledge of the tragic events. But after reading these posts, it becomes obvious that to the paranoid, facts don''t matter, only their agenda.