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Carol Anne Gotbaum Resists Arrest, Behaves Erratically On Surveillance Video

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by shanev137 October 5, 2007 7:28 PM EDT
Checking every 15 minutes, on what appeared to be a normal drunk and disorderly - that''''s fine.
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Where does it say that she was drunk at the time of her arrest you idiot?

How do you know it wasn''t a reaction to medication or a mental breakdown?

Part of the -JOB- of a cop is to assess if a person needs medical attention, which in this case they NEVER did.....that''s why she died.

If someone was really monitoring this insane crazy person who was obviously a threat to herself, she''d still be alive.

It really amazing how many different kinds of haters of humanity a story like this will bring out of the closet.

And they call us a "Christian nation". LMAO!!

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by shanev137 October 5, 2007 7:16 PM EDT
OMG...It''s so clear in that video, that right off the bat, they were dealing with an absolutely insane crazy person who had -completely- lost her mind.

It''s crystal clear she was not normal and was pleading for help.

They should have called the paramedics -immediately-...the minute they arrested that poor sick woman.
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by Krazcarl October 5, 2007 6:09 PM EDT
Xenalily...AHH your smarts couldn''t get you in a ceral box no one wants to argue with supiorior intellegence and your a joke not a troll but stand by this lady that was abused and if half your mind wasn''t ate out by drugs you''d see that.
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by erasmus6 October 5, 2007 5:48 PM EDT
So she was deeply depressed, suicidal and on her way to rehab. ALONE. WOW, that''s some family she has. Mommie-in-law was saying what a dear sweet person she was, so it makes me wonder why someone wouldn''t help this sweet person? Either she wasn''t that sweet or her family are a bunch of JERKS. AND sweet or not someone should still have been with her.

And when the husband announced that she was suicidal, that means that the authorities could jump on that as the cause of death, true or not.

And as far as the cops killing her goes, someone said that that would make it premeditated, not so. It could have been accidental. If she was fighting them, there is a possibility that she got hit in the wrong place or something. I can''t see in THIS situation that they would have DELIBERATELY killed her.
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by l8c6 October 5, 2007 5:45 PM EDT
Police said Gotbaum was shackled to a bench with a chain about two feet long and left alone in a holding room for about six to eight minutes. She was then found unconscious and not breathing, with the chain from the shackle pulled against the front of her neck.

"Because a person is handcuffed does not make that person safe to the officers or to themselves," Allard, a 32-year police veteran who works as a police procedures and practices liability consultant, told Early Show co-anchor Hannah Storm.

"They should have been keeping an eye on her?" asked Storm.

The above says it all and those incompetent airport security officers doing the job competent americans won''t do should be held less liable than the politicians who have become hoes to the right wing who have steadily fought to disassemble our systems for private profiteering.
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by l8c6 October 5, 2007 5:41 PM EDT
I''m astounding at the profound ignorance on the part of the uneducated unexperienced blaming the family. When someone is restrained by legitimate law enforcement in an advanced civilization, it is expected certain protocols are in place. Our countries systems are failing. We are becoming a 3rd world nation run by 3rd world immigrants.
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by krenz4 October 5, 2007 5:37 PM EDT
ARe you KIDDING ME? What the heck drives yo conspiracy theory nuts? There is NO WAY that a coroner or medical examiner can block access, or tell another examiner, "you can look at everything but her arms, or her head". or, ''You cant examine her torso"! What the hell are you talking about? the woman struggled and fought the cops before she was shackeled and she apparently harmed herself after that. She squirmed and thrashed and more than likely fell down , of COURSE she will be bruised. The slightest bump will bruise on a body after death! face it people, Nobody killed her . PUUUULLEEEEZ!
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by l8c6 October 5, 2007 5:37 PM EDT
Well, on psychiatric units a constant line of sight is required when someone is restrained. Is it within the protocol of security to restrain someone distraught or otherwise calm and walk away for periods long enough one could suffocate? Does their protocol require they assess the restraints for any impairment they may be causing to circulation? Was food or drink offered at least every 15-30 min. Was a female security officer available to assist the restrained with voiding? (po*oping or pee*ing). Probably not as is with the free ticket given to Blackwater private security.
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by xenalily October 5, 2007 5:35 PM EDT
crzmeat- it appears you got your first grade education from a cereal box. Go away- you''re not even arguing intelligently enough to merit it worth responding anymore. You''re a troll now go away.
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by Krazcarl October 5, 2007 5:34 PM EDT
azamka...Thank you I was not aware of that.
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