Comments on: Airport Victim's Family Wants Answers

Lawyer Claims Mother Of 3 Was "Manhandled" By Police; Family Sends Representative To Autopsy

[susanhelit]

From NY Times reports, she strangled herself on the chain shackling her to the bench. That works - that can happen.

No, expecting people to open the door, and make a whole plane run a little later (and possibly make others miss their connections) for your convenience isn''t reasonable. If you aren''t there at boarding time (not takeoff time, boarding time!), then it''s your own fault you missed it.


She went nuts (hitting people on their heads with her cell phone, by eyewitness reports), had to be restrained, and went nuts enough in those restraints to somehow die. Maybe she choked herself on the shackle. Maybe she was so freaked out, too much adrenaline, had a heart attack. Maybe she was on drugs. Not the police''s fault, unless they did something wrong. But restraining a person who is out of control is not wrong, it''s part of their jobs.

[sharncedar]

she wasn''t late for the flight. she was on time, they had closed the plane doors and didn''t let her on. They have discreation, for some people the doors are opened and the people are let on, these attendents decided to screw her. They called the secuity guards immediately, I''ve seen thsi exact kind of thing happen, and believe me, it can happen to you or your children. Then i don''t think you''ll be laughing so hard. she kept crying out for help, the security guards were embarrased, so they went in there to shut her up. They applied a choke hold, killed her by accident, those choke holds are the kind of thing amateur guards use they are really quite dangerous.

A lousy way to die, becoming more common every day in america. Tell you what, since some of the yokels on this board are having a big laugh at this woman, let''s have a big laugh when it happens to their kids or loved ones. Hah. Hows that?

[linfinster]

Personally, I think her kids%u2019 odds of living normal fulfulling lives have increased exponentially.
Posted by eggy1620


Ooooh that was mean. Quite possible true but, aside from what we''ve been told, we really can''t say that is true is this case.

[scottyusa]

Everyone should be aware that police and and other authorities will overreact in airports. Her treatment by the airline sounds normal. I fly a lot and am always amazed that people come aboard seconds before the door closes. Once the door closes thats it. Why this lady flew off the handle when it was her own fault she couldn''t get there in time and received standard treatment is beyond me. I will reserve judgement on the police until further facts are presented. The room without a camera could get real suspicious if there were another available that had a camera. After all one would think that the handcuffs were for her own protection while in the room alone?

[rushlimpdrug]

You can''''t kill yourself by asphyxiation with your own hands...you would pass out first. If she died from hands to the neck, you can bet it was the police trying to silence her.
Posted by godseyesore

Don''t worry, the kops will have their story dead on.
They can prove anything is possible, and that means anything.

[godseyesore-2009]

You can''t kill yourself by asphyxiation with your own hands...you would pass out first. If she died from hands to the neck, you can bet it was the police trying to silence her.

[gangesdak]

Yesterday I read that the police made a statment that this woman behaved outragously in the airport. So ouragous that she had to be gagged to death? Where is the sense of proportion? The police and the police deaprtment must be brought to justice. I am relieved to know that this family has political connections; more power to them. And please, don''t "advice" the family to send a "rep" with her to the rehab- that comment was most insensitive and uncalled for.

[eggy1620]

A member of a politically prominent New York family. Let us dissect that description. New Yorker %u2013 narcissist. Politically prominent New Yorker %u2013 the worst type of Narcissist. Politically prominent alcoholic New Yorker %u2013 well, no one on earth is as important as this woman. %u201CIf that plane had just been turned around, landed, and brought back to the gate, like it would have for any one of us, our loved one would be alive.%u201D Personally, I think her kids%u2019 odds of living normal fulfulling lives have increased exponentially.

[ljburwell]

If this family can send their own rep to the autopsy, why couldn''t they have sent a "rep" with her on her way to rehab? Maybe if she hadn''t been traveling alone this never would have happened.

[erasmus6]

"Manning plans to send a representative to watch the county medical examiner''s autopsy of Gotbaum''s body Tuesday."

That person should be another medical examiner, someone that knows what they are seeing.

Also there should have been cameras in that holding room, then there wouldn''t be any questions and great speculation about what happened.

You would think with all the police brutality now they would have cameras in places like this, if for no other reason than to cover their a-s-s-e-s. But then they probably figure they don''t need to do that because they usually get off anyways.