Comments on: Ahmadinejad Questions 9/11, Holocaust

Iranian President Speaks At Columbia University After Blistering Reception From School's President

[feelfree1]

s1ckd09,

Correction, I thought that you were citing the stock trades rather than the anthrax attacks as occurring after the 9/11/01 attacks.

[red164]

Good night everyone.


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Posted by singinrick at 02:47 AM : Sep 25, 2007

Pray for wisdom before your head hits the pillow.

[feelfree1]

s1ckd09,

I have not proposed any conspiracy theory. I have merely stated that the official 19-hijacker conspiracy theory does not stand up to scrutiny, and a further investigation of the inconsistencies is indicated. The burden of explaining the inconsistencies of the "official" 19-hijacker conspiracy theory appears to be on you, and the majority of Americans are not buying it, according to the survey that I referred you to.

I am also not setting out to "prove" anything here. I am simply pointing out that the official conspiracy theory is not plausible, and requires further investigation. Again, you construct another straw-man as a substitute for your weak argument.

Your claim that the disproportionate stock trades were "probably someone taking advantage of the fear after 9/11 and using it as a diversion" fails the basic reasoning test, since these trades were made PRIOR to the events. Again, this does not prove anything, and it is not intended to, but what it does seem to indicate is that whomever profited from these trades was betting heavily that the stock prices would fall, possibly indicating prior knowledge of the attacks. Again, this deserves an explanation.

[s1ckd09]

s1ckd09,

Re: "Because there was originally mistaken identity of some of the hijackers, that proves Bush did it?"

I have never made such a claim. You appear to be constructing another straw-man here, in an effort to bolster your own weak argument.

Posted by FeelFree1 at 01:26 AM : Sep 25, 2007

You''re right... so what IS your claim? Seems you''re just content to ask questions easily answered. BTW, my claim is there were 19 Arab fundmentalist hijackers that flew planes into the WTC, and the WTC later collapsed without the aid of thermite or other explosives... You have not addressed anything specific as to how that''s not possible and how something else is more believable. Keep in mind, that if the official account detailed EXACTLY what happened, now THAT would be a conspiracy, dontcha think?

There''s all kinds of theories out there, but you can''t mix and match the parts you like. They all have to work together. Like the theory that there never were any hijackers and the planes were remote control. Well, that blows the whole Israeli thing out of the water. OOOooo wait! Those 5 dancing Israelis flew the planes by remote into the WTC! Hey, I bet I can make a web page too!

[tbweb]

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad should now invite President Bush to Iran, allow President Bush to speak at Tehran University. It''s the least President Bush can do and explain to the Iranian people why he''s getting ready to bomb Iran back to the Stone Age if Iran doesn''t suspend Uranium enrichment, maybe that will convince the Iranians to take matters into their own hands and stop the Iranian nuclear program, Uranium enrichment themselves. Make no mistake about it, if Iran doesn''t suspend Uranium enrichment, Pres. Bush will order an attack on Iran and there is nothing the U.S. can do to stop him short of removing Pres. Bush from office.

[red164]

Posted by s1ckd09 at 02:34 AM : Sep 25, 2007

At this point nothing short of a complete independent investigation into 9/11 will satisfy many of the families that suffered the loss of loved ones and the millions of people around the world seeking the inquiry as well. You%u2019re an online troll and your answers are no substitute for a full and complete investigation into that terrible day.

[krotec54]

The problem is Islam and Muslims.
We don''t want them, and don''t need them. We can live just find without them.
Islam is not for me.

[feelfree1]

brianbwb,

Re: "You know the verse, but still you condone hatred and the killing of Muslims, you prove my point perfectly."

You seem to have summarized this poster quite well.

[grazinggoat]

... Christianity and Judaism were dominant in the Arabian Peninsula. So this instrcution is temporarily appropriate (at that time) because it has been for self-defense, and because Muslims were Minorities when it''''s been pretendedly revealed to Muhammad... Now look wider in the books SickRcik. Don''''t look narrow-minded! Hopefully this help you get a better apreciation of What the Muslim believers are, not how they are wickedly painted.

-Did you read what I put here Rick! Here I concede the dignity and respect I ''owe'' you! Read it! You know to be flexible in time is a great virtue. Multi-temporality is an attribute that historians have mastered to extract the why''s of such and such costumes of earlier populations. Circumstances have driven people to behave in ways we find really strange nowadays. When the Koran was written, circumstances were different, allowing and condoning some barbaric behaviors, that despite all we still commit today. Humans are Humans and some will forever stay immature. I don''t mind frustrating you Rick. I''ve already done that to my own son... I''m proud of him today!

[red164]

-If you truly knew Jesus you would know that He is the Truth

Posted by singinrick at 02:31 AM : Sep 25, 2007

That''s why I have been calling for full independent reviews into 9/11 see how truth works. Join the club and you might even be rewarded some day but it takes courage something you lack.

[s1ckd09]

s1ckd09,

Who mailed the Anthrax letters to the Democrats and the press following the 9/11/01 attacks?

Who profitted from the disproportionate airline "put" options, purchased just ahead of the attacks?

Why were the Israeli "art students" high-fiving and celebrating when they watched he towers fall?

Posted by FeelFree1 at 01:16 AM : Sep 25, 2007

Answer 1. I don''t know. Does that prove anything? In my opinion, it was probably someone taking advantage of the fear after 9/11 and using it as a diversion. Personally, I would like to know the answer to that question... but that doesn''t prove any conspiracy about the WTC collapse.

Answer 2. On one hand, "The names of the investors remain undisclosed and the $5 million remains unclaimed in the Chicago Exchange account." So in that case, no one. On other accounts, bin Laden, some egyptians, a couple of FBI agents, some Clinton folks, German banks, all kinds of people... where is the conspiracy here? Insider trading in the worst way, maybe, but where is the government conspiracy?

Answer 3. Because they were spies for Israel tracking Atta and the other hijackers. Maybe they knew something was going to happen and chose not to contact the U.S. govt. about it.

Still, no conspiracy proven there either.

So you''ve asked questions, but asking questions doesn''t prove anything, especially when there are answers to those questions that are rational and plausible.

[red164]

Posted by singinrick at 02:27 AM : Sep 25, 2007

Sorry but it''s not your destiny to be a successful online Preacher. And your insinuation that you have a direct line to God is similar to what other extremists teach I have my faith and you can''t take it away.

[tiredofthebs]

Hey ... Lee Bollinger ..... What the HELL does (SIC)president george w. SHRUB exhibit (OTHER THAN STUPIDITY)?! If that an example of how to be a world leader, give me HITLER anyday ! The United States'' current foreign policies ain''t exactly exemplary.

IMPEACH BUSH !

[socrates392]

He''''s your God, whether you choose to believe in Him or not.

It''''s got nothing to do with my attitude...it has to do with your attitude of not understanding the Truth and rejecting the Truth who is Jesus Christ.

You don''''t want to hear Truth because you do not believe in absolutes.

Posted by singinrick at 02:21 AM : Sep 25, 2007

Yes, but so do radical Muslims. They also believe in absolutes. They believe they are killing in the name of God. They have their book and you have yours.
Why are they wrong and you right?

[red164]

Posted by singinrick at 02:21 AM : Sep 25, 2007

I know the difference between Jesus and Jays us I don''t like your Jays us comprenday?

[red164]

John 13:34:

34"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

Posted by singinrick at 02:15 AM : Sep 25, 2007

Can you stick to that commandment for even five minutes rick, that%u2019s quite a stretch for you eh?

[red164]

Posted by singinrick at 02:10 AM : Sep 25, 2007

You don%u2019t inspire, must be your attitude it%u2019s so corrosive. And please don%u2019t blame Jays us.

[brianbwb-2009]

34"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
Posted by singinrick,

You know the verse, but still you condone hatred and the killing of Muslims, you prove my point perfectly.

[socrates392]

Posted by singinrick at 01:58 AM : Sep 25, 2007

Ok, fair enough. It just seems sometimes when you''re going at it with grazinggoat that you seem to dislike Muslims in general. Thanks for the clarification. Honestly, I think most moderate Muslims are no different from the moderate Christians I know: They tend ignore scripture which they find offensive or out of line with the general tenets of their religion.

People like Bin Laden who accept the Koran word for word are lunatics. Grazinggoat has a point though. Not all "jihadists" are woman abusing, suicide bombing murders. Some are freedom fighters, who have only taken up arms to get the US out of their country.

[grazinggoat]

There are the fundamentalist Muslims like Osama Bin Laden and Mahmoud Achmadenijad who follow the Quran word for word and it''''s teachings of hating Jews and Christians(which is why Achmadenijad wants to wipe out Israel and the US), and then there are the so-called "moderate" Muslims who are merely Muslims by culture or by birth, and who do not follow all of the teachings of Muhammed in the Quran. Muhammed clearly instructs all Muslims to strike out and kill Jews, and it calls Jews and Christians (referred to as the "People of the Book"..aka the Bible) pagans....
Posted by singinrick at 01:58 AM : Sep 25, 2007

-SickRick, you are not constant, here! many times on this board some brought up verses that should complete what you tried to say about Mohammad and killing of the Christians and Jews, who attack you, kill you and get you out of your homes. You seem to forget that Muslims were so little in number when Christianity and Judaism were dominant in the Arabian Peninsula. So this isntrcution is temporarily appropriate (at that time) because it has been for self-defense, and because Muslims were Minorities when it''s been pretendedly revealed to Muhammad... Now look wider in the books SickRcik. Don''t look narrow-minded! Hopefully this help you get a better apreciation of What the Muslim believers are, not how they are wickedly painted.