Comments on: Troops Cheer Call For Iraq Withdrawal

Governor's Call For U.S. Withdrawal From Iraq Greeted With Standing Ovation At National Guard Conference

[ioweign]

"Bush is a Calvinist."
- Posted by nyckate at 09:42 PM : Aug 26, 2007

That would be the Presbyterians, like Ross Perotm who actually bragged about his belief in predestination during one of the debates.

Bush is a Methodist. That denomination is fairly liberal. I''''m surprised he still belongs.

Hillary Clinton is a lot more sincere in her Methodism than Bush is, although both still support capital punishment, in defiance of their church''''s teachings.

"The United Methodist Church, along with other Methodist churches, also condemns capital punishment, saying that it cannot accept retribution or social vengeance as a reason for taking human life. The Church also holds that the death penalty falls unfairly and unequally upon marginalized persons including the poor, the uneducated, ethnic and religious minorities, and persons with mental and emotional illnesses. The United Methodist Church also cites the fact that Jesus explicitly repudiated the lex talionis in Matthew 5:38-39 and abolished the death penalty in John 8:31.[44] The General Conference of the United Methodist Church calls for its bishops to uphold opposition to capital punishment and for governments to enact an immediate moratorium on carrying out the death penalty sentence."

Source:

http://en.wikip
edia.org/wiki/United_Methodist_Church#Be
liefs
Posted by Iceman_1960 at 09:54 PM : Aug 26, 2007


When it comes to religion the Shrub is a Flip-Flopper.

Whichever way the wind is blowing !!

[iopian]

If the qualifier is ''trace of WMD'' then yes they have been found.

However, WMD were not the only reason for removing the Hussein regime from power. As Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Sandy Burger and Madelaine Albright have indicated in the past it was Hussein''s pursuit of WMD along with his history of miscalculation that made him an untenable threat to our security. Along with that was his invasion of two of his neighbors, his abrogation of the Gulf War cesefire, his attempted assassination of a former US President, the fact that the culprits of the first WTC attack entered the country with Iraqi passports, his disregrad for 17 resolutions issued by the UN, his attempted genocide of the Shia and the Kurds, his giving sanctuary to several of the world''s most notorious terrorists with American blood on their hands, his monetary support of Palestinian suicide bombers and for ten years his intentional targeting and sometimes firing on coalition aircraft executing a UN mandate to prevent genocide then I would have supported any President that would take this guy out of the world political scene. And I am not buying into this fallacious appeal to emotion about losing 3700 troops while throughout those same years nearly 15,000 Californians have been murdered without one word of concern about that tragic fact.

And in case you are wondering my son is in Ramadi on his second tour. He was in Sadr City on his first. I fully believe in his mission regrdless of who sent him there.

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[glaswolf]

A year ago, I spent 9 months in Ashville, NC ... I guess that is southern. I toured around a bit and talked with a lot of people. I generally found southerners courteaous. Despite complaints about police attitudes, I certainly never saw more than tolerance and police to citizen reasonableness. Curiously, as concurred by others who were also passing thru, there was an absence of yelling, possibly one horn honk in 9 months, literally. There was tension between the northerners and southerners ... attitudes of mutual treatment festered in tangential minds. However, generally southerners were pleasant and civil, particularly those who called themselves hillbillies. I found nothing but honesty and helpfulness. Also notable was that blacks resisted integration more than the whites. While blacks may exercise control, they were careful not to traumatize the tourists, artists, businessmen and musicians. Many white males were a little timid in public because they have been so battered formally. Crime seemed underreported.

[seven-pesos]

the south murdered abraham lincoln...

the south murdered john f. kennedy...

to make up for this, the south gives us george bush, jr.

hooray for the south.

rednecks, christian creeps , republican snakes...

oh, well...that''s the south for you, folks!

[iceman_1960]

seven-pesos: "the south murdered abraham lincoln"

That''s like saying "the midwest murdered President Garfield."

Lincoln was murdered by a handful of individuals, not an entire region of the country.

[j-whitman]

glaswolf,,, Good to hear from an authentic American.. Right on

[iceman_1960]

"always war, hate, christian creeps and republican snakes... nothing good comes out of the south."
- Posted by seven-pesos at 10:31 PM : Aug 26, 2007

These are not the words Abraham Lincoln used toward the close of the Civil War.

"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation''s wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow and his orphan - to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations."

Those were Lincoln''s words.

[glaswolf]

As a Comanche, I don''t see anything intrinsicly wrong with Nazi separatists of any form, fascist assimilationism is problematic, animists are ok as long they''re careful about who or what they eat during rites, and as for those who hang people ... the hangman has always been an honorable profession in my book. Judeo christian rightist who tried to steal the identity of this nation built for waging war, now that they are a problem. Fate and God only wished the militaries were led by ignorance and stupidity. War has its resolving qualities inaccessible to dialectics. Oh, I would prefer the southern boys fly their battle flags, if they won''t die for their own realities, why should I expect them to fight for our more common temporal technical constructions?