Comments on: Dogs Enter Home And Attack Disabled Woman

Pit Bulls Used Pet Door, Killed Neighbor's Jack Russell Terrier; She's In Serious Condition

[toolmangler-2009]

Posted by erasmus6 at 10:01 PM : Aug 22, 2007

You are ''clueless", I am gone.

[erasmus6]

ToolMangler

"If we keep it like that then the USA might be able to last and be free longer than Canada."

See there you go talking nonsense again.
If you think being FREE is living in a country where everybody feels the need to own a gun to protect themselves, then I feel very sorry for you. Being FREE is living in a country where most people don''t own guns and there is no need for guns. If you can''t see that, you have a serious problem.

[toolmangler-2009]

Posted by erasmus6 at 09:51 PM : Aug 22, 2007


Girl, you asked for this, ''Tool'' in most english speaking places is another word (slang) for a pe nis. It is that simple. I just happen to be a ''TOOL and DIE" maker that has mangled my share of "real metal tools".

[erasmus6]

ToolMangler

I don''t get it. You call yourself "TOOL MANGLER". So when I say "go mangle your tool", what''s the big deal? What is vulgar about that?:) Maybe you should change your name.

[toolmangler-2009]

With how obsessed you people are about your guns not even an army could get them away from you.
Posted by erasmus6 at 09:44 PM : Aug 22, 2007



If we keep it like that then the USA might be able to last and be free longer than Canada.

[erasmus6]

toldyouso21

You need to get a grip there, girl. If you read my comment you should have realized I was only kidding about the "door to door" search. I am not stupid enough to believe that that would work. With how obsessed you people are about your guns not even an army could get them away from you.

[toolmangler-2009]

I can out shoot him and his buddies any day of the week.
Posted by erasmus6 at 09:07 PM : Aug 22, 2007


If I were to teach him for two weeks and you won''t be able to out shoot him. Let me teach him for 6 months and he will be able to hunt you down and shoot you, and you will not know where he is, even if I call you and tell you he is coming. But here is where I draw the line. I won''t train anyone to do that. I wouldn''t want to live with the guilt that would bring down on me..... knowing and doing is two different things.

[toldyouso21]

So if there are flaws in my assertion then that would be the case with the vets and SPCA as well, I guess.
Posted by erasmus6 at 09:18 PM : Aug 22, 2007


LOL. Yep. because under the title and degree they are still human and subject to flaws. My hubby is by degree a DVM (though not by profession) trust me--they are flawed a lot. I think no blanket or generalism should be made about any living thing, because as sure as you make it an anomaly will appear to give lie to it. Best to take it all on a case by case basis.

On another note, the reason I stated what I did about guns, is that ostensibly the military would go only into "criminal" designated homes, but that is only a small step before declaring any/all homes they want to enter as criminal to justify their searching and seizing. Police rule ---if you ever really studied it, no matter what, you would NOT want it. Because any police state is only as good as the head of it, Saddam was the leader of a police state. So was Hitler and Stalin. Need we say more?

[toolmangler-2009]

I myself did not put my dogs on a chain. It is wrong. If you have to put them on a chain then don''''t have one.

Have you gone into your second childhood, ToolMangler? Sometimes I think you talk just to hear yourself. Or should I say type....
Posted by erasmus6 at 08:48 PM : Aug 22, 2007


If you think I am in my second childhood then you think I am old enough to have a second childhood. (I am many years older than MichelleM99). Thank you for that, it also proves that I outgrew my first, what is your excuse? go back to the beginning of this comment section and re_read your statements in the light of those of other commenters. maybe, just maybe you might see why your childshness is so evident. I live in a small town now, not in the country and I won''t destroy a beloved pet just to make a spoiled brat happy. He had a good life all the way to the end and died peacefully, I buried him with love and tears in my back yard. and see his grave anytime I am out there. And YES!!! I find your vulgarity and mis use of my handle (nickname) offensive.. But I have heard, and at one time used a lot worse.

[erasmus6]

I said that there maybe some for whatever reason that don''t become viscious but from what I have seen and from what vets and the SPCA have said, they do have a tendency to become this way.

So if there are flaws in my assertion then that would be the case with the vets and SPCA as well, I guess.

[toldyouso21]

Okay, well let me see....first you could take what''''s left of your military and do a house to house search. And whenever you come across a criminal you could shoot them on site and take their guns away. Pretty soon you will have less criminals and less guns!

If ever there is a house to house search for guns, look for people to come up with ingenious places to hide guns and for many more to be bargained and traded on the black market. Unless the military wants to rip up floor, tear down walls and literally remove bricks piece by piece , they will never get guns if we don''t want them to have them. Not to mention that using the military on a civilian population is illegal (national defense for that) and if any tried, they''d see our guns alright, while we locked and loaded and shot a lot of them between the eyes. If you think America is hell now with guns, let the military even pretend to want to search and seize our arms.

THIS is exactly why many of us want to bear arms, to counter our military being used against us in any way=--because just like they can be in the employ of a reasonable gov. they can be used by a madman/dictator to quell a population.

[toldyouso21]

An attack from a 45 pound pit bull certainly can.

Posted by teeus at 05:40 PM : Aug 22, 2007

If you are attacked by a 45 lb pit, a puppy attacked you. Standard is 65+ pound fully ripped with trained males up to 140 lbs---- all muscle.

[erasmus6]

ToolMangler

Do you know how absolutely ridiculous you sound? You are becoming more pathetic everyday. You are making yourself look like an idiot. If I recall I think it was just yesterday or the day before when there were others that were thinking the same as I.

You need to get yourself a hobby where intellegence isn''t needed. You are losing it.

BTW, I ALSO know guns and how to use them....

Just because I am against all people owning them doesn''t mean I don''t know how to use them. My husband is a hunter and we always used to target shoot out in the sticks. I can out shoot him and his buddies any day of the week.

[toldyouso21]

myself did not put my dogs on a chain. It is wrong. If you have to put them on a chain then don''''t have one.

Have you gone into your second childhood, ToolMangler? Sometimes I think you talk just to hear yourself. Or should I say type....
Posted by erasmus6 at 08:48 PM : Aug 22, 2007


As a child (until I owned dogs) all of my family''s dogs were outside dogs and on chains. My dad was raised on a farm and saw dogs as working animals, not something that should be in the house. Our dogs were mostly for guarding the home. I had several german shephards, several shephard mixes, a labrador and german shepherd and a cockapoo. The cockapoo was the only one that was fenced but never chained up. The rest were poor guard dogs as they loved anyone (and I mean anyone) who happened upon them as long as they did not harm my kid brother) the cockapoo, would bite anything and anyone if you got in his way. Even if you wanted to take your shoe or something away from him, he''d attack. He especially hated strange men and would chase the mailman and others down the street. the chained dogs were sweet always--so either we were very lucky with our dogs back then, or there are flaws in your assertion. Now, I keep my dogs in the house. My purebred cocker is as mean as any pit and would kill if his teeth were large enough.

[toldyouso21]

It is true--humans make or break a dog and make it mean, but if they ever try to get rid of the pits, those with bull terriers can start the generational breeding all over again. My brother raises pits and has 7 of his own in 7 foot tall kennels, with concrete floors and steel fencing welded on top, one of his pits has dug 4 inch gouges into the concrete, trying to get out. He does have to carry liability insurance and also has been sued for his pits attacking a person who was illegally on his property. For at least 3 of his dogs, if they are involved in another killing (of other dogs) they will be put down. His fines have ranged from the vet bills of other dogs, to 5K for injury to a man''s leg.

[toldyouso21]

it has been trained to fight,yes it can be mean and very dangerous,after all this is a dog that use to be used in the bull rings many years ago,so that in itself would tell you that this breed is very strong. Posted by Beadazzle at 04:23 PM : Aug 22, 2007

Pit bulls are not a pure bred but are a derivative of bull terriers (which are just as mean, stubborn and lethal once they engage in a fight. Any of these dogs will kill, but pits were bred to be fighting dogs.

There are many methods to make a dog mean, from feeding them gunpowder mixed with raw meat (makes them crazy) to abusing them so that they inherently hate humans. Pit bulls can be loveable and can be downright goofy in their affection, but they all were bred to fight to the death. Mostly, they do so by grabbing other dogs or humans or other animals by the neck, and consistently chewing more and more into their mouth until the victim strangles.

Though they do know how to rend and tear, they usually do the neck hold when they go for the kill, other bites by them are used to incapacitate their victim, so that they either subdue or go for the kill.

A pit will stop attacking (usually) if the victim lies still and does not appear to be alive, but they may stay close and watch it, if the victim tries to leave, they begin all over again. see next post

[erasmus6]

ToolMangler

"If this woman had no gun the dogs would have killed her."

Do you read the articles?
She attempted to shoot the dogs but didn''t hit them so that isn''t what saved her. What saved her is she managed to get out of the house and into her car where she phoned 911.

And I do know what I am talking about when I say that dogs become viscious when chained. Maybe there are some that won''t but most have a tendency to become viscious. I have been told that from the SPCA and different vets. I have had dogs and friends that have had dogs and the ones that were on chains did become viscious. Not viscious towards their owners but viscious toward people coming onto their property,even when the people were known to the dog. They became more snippy with people even in the house with friends over.

I myself did not put my dogs on a chain. It is wrong. If you have to put them on a chain then don''t have one.

Have you gone into your second childhood, ToolMangler? Sometimes I think you talk just to hear yourself. Or should I say type....

[toolmangler-2009]

Yeah she tried though didn''''t she? Another inexperienced person with a gun. Who knows how many bullets she fired that missed
Posted by erasmus6 at 01:51 PM : Aug 22, 2007

Let me hang a (2)65 lb PIT BULLS on your arm and body then tell me then why you couldn''t shoot it (but then it didn''t say if she fired into the ceiling or floor DID IT?). But then you "are" the CANADIAN super woman aren''t you. The ONLY people in the world that are morally justified in their existance. Maybe she was blind and couldn''t see the dogs but shot the floor to run them off. SSShhheeeesssssshhhh!!!!! girl, I use to think you were intelligent but misguided but now I see that you are plain stupid!!!! BTW, I KNOW guns and how to use them well...

[toldyouso21]

If you have a gun, by all means learn how to clean and store it and practice using it at a gun range. At least then you''''ll know the general direction to point the thing. However, do not assume that having a gun will make you safe; that you%u2019ll know when to use it; that you will know what to aim at; that you will hit what you aim for and not something or someone else. Your odds of dying by gunshot actually *increase* if you own a gun.

Still, they''''re real useful fer huntin'''' lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
Posted by MyIDonCBS at 02:21 PM : Aug 22, 2007


Yep. cuz the dogs could be mangling your shooting arm, or in some cases, the appearance of a weapon sends some dogs who are trained that way into Kill mode, and the first thing they do is go for the gun arm, the next, the throat of the would be shooter.

[toldyouso21]

We never saw it coming," he said. "They''re the kinds of dogs you''d let play with your babies."


Idiots never do. That is why they are called idiots. They''re are the kind of dogs that could turn your babies into steaks. Get real, people cannot and will not ever truly understand the mindset of an animal, domesticated or not. For those bred to fight and kill, any resistance means death, Pit Bulls will continue to maim and maul until the victim stops moving, If the woman had stopped trying to get away, they would have stopped.

At least that is supposed to work in theory. The trouble is, when something is rending you to bits the urge is very strong to get away, but any movement makes them continue the attack.