Comments on: Cops Eye Suspect In "Good Kids" Shooting

Robbery Likely Motive For Execution-Style Slaying Of 3 N.J. College Students

[nyckate]

mormonman1 - it has to be in the culture not in the skin color - there are mountain regions in the US where no man or woman would be safe - and those mountains are inhabited by white people. So it is culture driven rather than ethnic or color.

I think when european immigrants came here - running from brutality and poverty and prejudice - they saw examples in their new country who they wanted to emulate - today in the black and latino communities all they see get are drug dealers and pimps living high life and athletes selling them $400 sneakers and rappers telling them they've got to get ahead by pimping out their women and murdering those who "diss" them.

The likes of Sharpton are nowhere to be found unless it's to protest against the white man and the police - the last time around he was kinda stunned cause the police he was protesting against turned out not to be white - he had no real scapegoat. But he's been awfully silent over this execution and he's not out there telling the community they've got to step up and stop this themselves and turn these animals in. I wonder perhaps does he rely on financial payoffs from them??

[quazilaon]

I apologize, it was a different person, sorry!!!!! But, who ever it applies to then, just add there name in the place of your name.

[catcher722]

Quazz4
If you go back and read what I said earlier I was defending the parents, someone else made some comments that it was the victims parents fault and I was explaining how in no way possible it was there fault. Go back read what I said, nyckate was agreeing with me.

[whatithink-2009]

mormonman1,

I could very well say that you are a racist because your religion has trained you to be one. I've learned about the mormons and a lot that you say is more your religion speaking than the actual truth.

There is nothing inherently sinful about blacks. There are things inherently sinful about humans. Don't be a fool.

[kailumego1]

Mormonman, you are just like a "false prophet" that takes phrases from the Bible out of context.

Here's your article, which states nothing about an inherently genetic predisposition for criminal behavior...

"Des Moines, Iowa - Blacks in the United States are imprisoned at more than five times the rate of whites, and Latinos are locked up at nearly double the white rate.
The report by the Sentencing Project, a Washington-based think tank, found that states in the Midwest and Northeast have the greatest black-to-white disparity in incarceration.
Such figures "reflect a failure of social and economic interventions to address crime effectively," as well as racial bias in the justice system, said Marc Mauer, the group's executive director.

Discovery Channel has a two hour mini-series on the CIA, the brotherhood and betrayal, watch it, then come back with your ridiculous racial posturing, about an inherited genetic predisposition for criminal behavior.

Black folks aren%u2019t the only ones in need of a %u201Creality check%u201D, or coming out of denial, European hands are %u201Cbloodied%u201D with millions of innocent deaths due to greed and hegemony, in North/South America, Africa, India, China, Australia, etc. so don%u2019t %u201Cthump%u201D your chest in pontification Europeans are just as savage as the rest..

[quazilaon]

nyckate,
what you said to catcher722 made so much sense. because how in the world can catcher722 blame the parents. Catcher722 can't blame the parents because the parents didn't tell the suspects to go and kill their children. cathcer722 really needs to read the article again. I feel if catcher722 reads the article he will know that the kids were simply in deep craving of a late night snack, that ended in tragedy!

[nyckate]

Quazz4 - well if we were all teh same color then no race crimes - but believe me there'd still be hate and murder and robbery - some people are just born mean and bad. Others become greedy.

[catcher722]

I take that back, skin color would not make anything change much but if we were all equal without a doubt it would change everything a great deal.

[kailumego1]

Tbweb:"True, but people of color face a unique dilemma! People of color don't blend in like whites do"

Obviously you know very little about the topic you're pontificating, African slaves came from 15 different countries along the West African coast, a blend of 200 distinctive tribal factions, genetic and morphological variation, and speaking over 2000 divergent languages.

Africa is 2 to 3 times the size of the U.S., of which it encompasses a prodigious hodgepodge of genetic/morphological/cultural/linguistic diversity.

Only an uneducated, intellectually primitive, and narrow-minded individual would %u201Clump%u201D all people of color into a %u201Cmonolithic-pie%u201D.

There are some blacks in America that could very easily pass for white, of which you wouldn%u2019t know the difference.

[nyckate]

catcher722 - ahh - I see - well - how on earth can anyone blame the victims' parents - from teh sounds of it they did everything right - they did all they could and raised some fine kids. Now they have to bury them before their time because someone else brought up animals not humans.

[catcher722]

of course it would and more than likly at a similar rate.

[quazilaon]

QUESTION TO EVERYONE POSTING A COMMENT!!!
What if we all had the same skin color and were all equal. Do you feel hate crime, race crime, and murder would still exist???????/

[whatithink-2009]

Nyckate,

I am African American and grew up in a poor neighborhood. I have to say that I didn't have a bad childhood at all. I had a great one, actually. I had great parents and wonderful mentors (black, white and yellow). I got out of my situations through an expanded support system. They didn't allow me to expect less of myself. To be honest, the thought of hurting my mother was more pressure on me than anything else. I am an only child.

I had friends that didn't have that same support. I think that is why I support mentoring so much. If you don't have good parents, you need even more support from other sources. Otherwise, you are really at risk.

Honestly, I think more white people here on these boards put more value into Sharpton and Jackson (based on the comments that I read). I never considered either of them as a leader of me. In fact, growing up the only pictures of "leaders" that we had around were of John Kennedy, MLK and Robert Kennedy. The fact is, it was a little red-haired teacher, a greying dark brown doctor and a Korean American shop owner that helped me the most outside of my parents and immediate family growing up. They gave me good advice. That's worth more than money.

[kailumego1]

Likewise, there are some Italians, Jews, and Eastern Europeans with kinky hair, olive skin, and Negroid features [full lips, large nose, etc].

Study anthropology, then come back and discourse, the aborigines of Australia have very unique genetic characteristics, which they have a mixture of both European and African morphology, i.e. [Negroid and European features, naturally blond hair, wide or narrow noses, etc], they are considered by some anthropologists as being a distinct %u201Crace%u201D of people.

East Africans are both genetically and morphologically different from West Africans, similar to Western and Eastern Europeans, which cultural, linguistical, and social variables are dramatically and considerably noticeable to those venturing %u201Coutside the box%u201D.

Ethiopians are morphologically different from Ghanaians, Nigerians, Beninians, as those in the Sub-Saharan regions are genetically and morphologically different from the Congolese and Zulus of South Africa.
Race, is a European construct created to support white economic hegemony over less developed nations, which it has nothing to do with %u201Cskin-color%u201D, purely economical%u2026

[quazilaon]

Whatithink....
The chains of the mind are always harder to break than any physical chains.


What actually is that bonds the chains to the minds of these people. Do you know? obviously, it was how they were raised. If you were taught, to always be inferior, and superior then, yes it is very hard to break the chains to the mind. But, if you were taught, life morals and how to live life to the fullest, then mind barriers are easily broken. It all goes back to how the child was raised and generational curses!
Example....
If my mother's mother, taught her to stay in a woman's place and let the man lead everything, then, my mother would basically think that she has to be inferior to the male gender.

[nyckate]

mormonman1 - so basically blacks commit more crimes so they are incarcerated at a greater rate than the white man. That's not a study - that's fact. Why do they commit more crime is the problem - there was a time when poor people used to see hard work and education as a way out of their slums - now they see a gun and drugs as a way out. Maybe they are being raised wrong.

[catcher722]

nyckate
I was not talking about the parents of the killers, I was directing that comment toward what someone said about blaming the parents of the victims. I understand your point but realize I was directing that comment toward the parents of the victims.

[theusa1st]

I think it is you that needs to get real. If guns were illegal it makes it much more harder to get one. With almost every idiot in America owning one, all anyone has to do is break into someones home and take theirs. A gun makes a person feel more powerful and allows them to do what they maybe normally wouldn't have done. It is a lot easier to shoot someone than beat them or stab them.
I read an article about how they were changing things in the training of people in the military. They were no longer going to be physically and metally abusing them. This is probably where the problem started. In the training, their self-esteem has been crushed and they have felt "helpless". That explains their unhealthy obsession with guns. It makes them feel more POWERFUL and less helpless.
Posted by erasmus6 at 01:27 PM : Aug 08, 2007

Washington D.C. has some of the strongest gun controls in the nation...it is also one of the murder capitals of the nation. Gun control DOES not work...it is being proven every where. The criminals illegally get guns and then they have an unarmed populace that they can rob, shoot and steal from. I own guns and I would bet my last dollar that I have a much higher IQ than you. The rest of you statement doesn't make much sense either. And since this isn't your country why don't you kiss off.

[nyckate]

catcher722 - the victims and the murdering jackals all came from the same neighborhood - all started out the same - yet one group went so bad and the other didn't. It has to be in the upbringing - a little kid raised by a crack *** doesn't have much of a chance. That's no excuse for murdering rampages - none at all - but it does explain lack of morals, values and humanity.

I don't agree that this is a robbery gone bad - these kids were unarmed - they were brutally executed because the jackals wanted to execute them. To try and say this is a robbery gone bad is a weak attempt at trying to justify not turning the animals in - it's a desperate attempt to not face the fact that the community is protecting these animals.

[catcher722]

erasmus6 where are you from? because the way you talk is that your country is the best place in the world and has no flaws at all.