Comments on: Exorcism Ends In Deadly Stun-Gun Struggle

Phoenix Man Accused Of Choking 3-Year-Old Granddaughter Dies After Fight With Police

[randalds]

I can't wait to hear the nutjobs claiming that the grandfather died because the possessed child killed him with her mental/spirtual powers. (Er, would that be in self-defense?) Too bad Jerry Falwell isn't still around - he would have been good for such a quote!

Posted by r_bayless at 02:07 PM : Jul 30, 2007

Or that he successfully "exorcised" the demon out of the child and into himself, which is why he was trying to kill her.......or some such other religious bullsh*it.....it all reads like a bad movie script....

[susanhelit]

willylou - no - it does no harm to me nor anyone else that you believe - so long as you don't push that on others. That's what America was founded for - so everyone could believe as they liked, and coexist.

It doesn't make me believe, of course - but then that's my choice and does no harm to you. To me - I've seen plenty of cases where the doctors prepare the family for the last night - just in case, because if it was, and they didn't tell the family that it could be, that'd be horrible. Your mother getting sick - she's been by you, in a hospital, no doubt not getting enough sleep, enough food, and tons of stress weakening her immune system - her getting sick isn't a surprise either. Your fever breaking - that's kinda how it happens - your body finally turns the corner on fighting the disease, figures out how to kill it, and does so.


But I think the thing is that prayer comes up when people try to say this was all God - and if you say that God decided to save her, then he also decided to not save her earlier, before she'd been hurt so many times. You can't have it both ways.

[iceman_1960]

I think I can explain this whole thing (with apologies to "toldyouso21")

God knew before the creation of the world that this tragic incident would occur.

So he whispered into some wise inventor's ear, the idea of the "stun gun."

And it was ready just in time.

For the Lord helps those who work in mysterious ways.

[bananaamy]

I cant help but notice there is no church, father, or priest named in the news report....

[willylou11]

I understand and appreciate your points Iceman. While i respect your opinion, however, that does not mean I agree with you in any way shape or form. I believe in what happened to me and I believe in God. I'm not asking you to admit you are wrong, but merely explaining one of my own experiences as to why I believe. Does that harm anyone, not that I can think of. Will it keep non-believers up at night because I believe, I should hope not. We are all entitled to our own views and opinions, I'm not asking anyone to agree with me, Do I think the world would be better if everyone believed in God, yes, but that is my opinion and I am entitled to it, just as you are entitled to your opinion and beliefs. So say what you will, cause I'm to busy preparing myself to walk the streets of gold beside the Lord Jesus Christ.

[randalds]

There is no God and no devil,
No demons or angles.
You have been suckered and indocturnated if you believe in that fantasy.

Posted by adventurepa at 01:49 PM : Jul 30, 2007

Amen.

[susanhelit]

To those who want to say God saved this little girl, answered her prayers - if he did that, could do that - why wait for so long, why wait until she's nearly dead, and has been abused for quite some time, time that she'll have to remember, time that will hurt or destroy the rest of her life? No - if God rescued her, he waited way, way, way too long. You can't have the good, without the bad - if God rescues her, he also knew about it all along, and let it happen.

Her prayers were ignored, until a neighbor finally called the police. If there's a god, he's not answering prayers, he's very hands off.

[iceman_1960]

The Bible teaches that "God" is the one who created pneumonia in the first place.

[Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

John 1:3 "Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made."]

So to be grateful to someone for saving you from the dangers he sent your way, is to fall for a very old scam.

In modern prisons, predators use this scam when they "protect" new inmates from other convicts, after first hiring those convicts to frighten the "new fish."

[susanhelit]

Something is very wrong with that family - the grandfather, and the naked mother - there's something weird going on there. Like most nutjobs, they call it religion. I wonder if it's the grandfather being a perv who damaged the young mother when she was his daughter, or if it's just a family history of mental illness.

But - while I'm very much not religious - while they called it an exorcism, that doesn't mean this is really about religion, any more than when a gang member dies being beat into the gang, it's really about brotherly bonding.

[adventurepa]

Posted by WiccanTexan
"How horrific, that the timely intervention of professionals saving this girl's life is interpreted as "God answered her prayers.""

Religious wacko's. "UP to no Good!"

There is no God and no devil,
No demons or angles.
You have been suckered and indocturnated if you believe in that fantasy.
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