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Judge's Ruling Against Local Anti-Immigrant Law Could Affect Similar Laws Nationwide

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by bhappy2-2 July 29, 2007 10:00 PM EDT
formrusmcsgt
1. Cost. Confiscate all money, vehicles and homes (whether rented or not) and USE THEIR MONEY to send them home.
2. Children. They can take them with them. I wouldn't want to break apart a family just to acheive JUSTICE.
3. World perception. I couldn't care less about what the world thinks of us PROTECTING OUR COUNTRY, ENFORCING OUR LAWS and PROTECTING OUR BORDERS.
Oh yeah, putting aside the racism would do us no harm, either. When will you ILLEGAL ALIEN LOVERS come to understand it is not racism; it is our desire to see the LAWS of OUR country enforced at the same level for ALL.
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by grammawhamma July 29, 2007 7:26 PM EDT
Posted by nvhorseman at 10:45 AM : Jul 29, 2007

Excellent post!!
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by strombi30-2009 July 29, 2007 5:08 PM EDT
If people would go to numbersusa.com website, they would find sane sensible ways to deal with our immigration problems. If more people joined, our government would have to find ways of dealing instead of rhetoric upon rhetoric. Numbers faces the problem head on, and also advocates non violence when dealing with the problem. Its time to band together with numbers usa, and move forward on the immigration issue.
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by njman4 July 29, 2007 4:59 PM EDT
Check out NumbersUSA website and join. Send the emails to the politicians who represent you. Complaining here doesn't accomplish much.
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by prinzowhales July 29, 2007 4:35 PM EDT
Mo005--I blame both parties--and the people who have ignored the open borders and voted for pro-free trade, pro-open borders, pro-New World Order candidates. Both parties have had control of the Executive and Legislative branches during the last two decades--they did nothing...and the people just kept re-electing them...and as long as people keep voting for the mainstream candidates...the Clinton-Thompson-Obama-Romney-Edwards candidates...and as long as the people and their state and local leaders won't stand up against these black-robed, bench-squatting vermin on the federal bench, nothing is going to change.

California could have stood up when the bench monkey put the will of the people at naught and threw out the proposition that was passed to protect them from the costs of illegal immigration. No, it didn't because it had a governor and legislature were to spineless to cause a stink. Its time that the states and municipalities have leaders that will stand up to the usurpers in Washington and make them go through the effort of quashing them.
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by likeitis5050 July 29, 2007 2:48 PM EDT
SharnCedar I'll be looking forward to YOUR video on Utube.
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by likeitis5050 July 29, 2007 2:43 PM EDT
Take note of any judge or politician that agrees with giving illegal immigrants full rights and exemption from immigration laws and make sure they know who you are in the process. Profiling is a concern, especially if you are an American. It's time Americans, of all heritage, step up and demand OUR immigration laws be obeyed without regard to ACLU threats. What the judge is basically doing is cowering under the ACLU. What he is actually doing is declaring SOME criminals exempt from our laws. Another corrupted judge. One of thousands making decisions in OUR country today. The ACLU is operating from loop holes that our politicans and judges know exist but make no effort to correct. Until we stand up and show we are in control...the ACLU rules.
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by sharncedar July 29, 2007 2:14 PM EDT
I think it is reasonable to find out where this judge works and picket his office. His home would be out of bounds, but his office is a constitutional political statement. Make it miserable for him to come to work, make him feel the pain instead of us. If we make an example out of this crooked judge, maybe some of the other elitists will pause before attacking America. It's going to have to be like that - they don't listen to us, they don't respect us, they aren't on our side and never will be.

I can see a mob of protesting and angry citzens harrasing this illegal clown of a judge wherever he goes. Let's make an example of this guy. At the supermarket, at his office, in the airport, at the bank where he tries to spend his bribery money - let's have activists there, protesting him, making him know he is unwelcome in our country. Making an example out of one crook like this will put the fear of God into the rest of these thieves, most likely, as they are the most abject kinds of cowards.

I can also see some enterprising video artist shooting video of the illegal alien slaves leaving this piece of garbage judge's home. Since it is close to a given that he himself has illegal alien slaves in his home, probably raising his children for him while he parties with his liberal wife. When you post the video, let me know, put it up on you tube I would find it interesting.
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by coffeehead-2009 July 29, 2007 2:05 PM EDT
You HAVE to sit down study and research the WHOLE picture and write to, phone, or march on your state/nat'l representatives. You have to do it YOURSELVES. This democracy is slipping away. You better wake up!

xxxxxx

It is definately getting better. BUT - this is the policy of capitlaism laz faire. It requires just what they are doing. Making our lives so miserable and peasant-like that we are just too busy,paranoid and subliminally blind. America has lost not only it's pride but is raped of it's courage.

In a sense, it is understandable that the ruling class within capitalism desires to manipulate unemployment in this way and deflect questions about their profit, property and power onto the labour market. Managing depression (as indicated by high unemployment levels) allows greater profits to be extracted from workers as management hierarchy is more secure. When times are hard, workers with jobs think twice before standing up to their bosses and so work harder, for longer and in worse conditions. This ensures that surplus value is increased relative to real wages (indeed, in the USA, real wages have stagnated since 1973 while profits have grown massively). In addition, such a policy ensures that political discussion about investment, profits, power and so on ("the other institutional factors") are reduced and diverted because working class people are too busy trying to make ends meet.


http://www.capitalism.net/Laissez-Faire%20Capitalism.htm
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by mo005 July 29, 2007 1:22 PM EDT
formrusmcsg: We forced the black people into this country, and they do speak english. They don't live ten familys to a house, and have a child ever 9 months just to get more free money. These mexicans are moving here just so they can get a free life here. They are expecting us to learn their language, and to change for them. They don't care that american already has a language, and its own customs. If we don't do something soon they WILL out number us and take over this great nation of ours and it will never recover.
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by jameslouiky July 29, 2007 1:00 PM EDT
It's the greedy who move here, it they were not greedy they would stay in the countries they came from. (As a general rule). Just like greedy people it's never enough, when they find an easier way to make money selling drugs, stealing and murdering people in their way it's not much of a step for them. When on the run, they run back to the country they are from.

It's the greedy here who keep promoting loose border policies, for money, political power, phony religious ideals which have more to do with the first two reasons adding in greed for god.

Isn't it funny that the news never talks about what the countries these people come from like Mexico who is also a nation of immigrants? They treat immigrants much different then we do.

In Mexico if your an American working illegally, they arrest you place you in jail and fine you $10,000. They don't deport you out until you pay up. This includes confiscating your property. If we employed that policy they would be gone in a decade.

Once they become legal here they are not going to pick tomatoes. They are going to get real jobs starting a whole new round of illegals!

They can%u2019t even run their own lives in their own country, I%u2019ll be dammed if they%u2019ll run mine%u2026.sunshine.
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by akpals July 29, 2007 12:58 PM EDT
I think the bottom line should be that if you look at all the gangs,drugs,homeless, and those on welfare you can plainly see that we have enough problems here already. Why anyone would expect us to be happy about adding more? Those that see this country as always having room for one more need to remove the blinders. This *** about giving illegals more rights is crazy. When you start thinking of Lady Liberty as a single working parent in debt up to her ***, you'll be able to be less generous to all of those showing up to dinner uninvited.
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by iceman_1960 July 29, 2007 12:40 PM EDT
"Immigration Ruling Could Have Broad Impact"

Of course it will have an impact on women.

That goes without saying.





( j/k )
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by mrhoppy-2009 July 29, 2007 12:25 PM EDT
There is a real easy solution to the judges solution. States that want to stop the flow of illegal workers can succeed from the Union.

I am guessing that before one state even completes that move the government will stop using illegal labor to destroy labor unions and push labor prices down in order to impoverish the working class.

The first state to leave the union will have a huge economic upsurge since they are no longer paying far more then the income tax from the fruit of their labor. Everything they buy has also been taxed sometimes hundreds of times.

A loaf of bread - The farmer gets 5 cents for the wheat, then there are over 100 different taxes placed on the wheat as it goes through the process of becoming a loaf of bread.

A gallon of gas - Oil companies pay little or no taxes and like many corporations, actually get tax rebates. If you payed at the pump everything that you ultimately pay for a gallon of gas, you pay some of the highest prices anywhere.

Succeed from the union and become a little Switzerland and you will be rich beyond your dreams.
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by reel-crazy July 29, 2007 12:19 PM EDT

They just happen to be Hispanic in my area so I used them as examples.

Hopefully they will arrive in your neighborhood soon so you can enjoy a little of their freedom from the LAW, too, formrusmcsgt....
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by formrusmcsgt July 29, 2007 12:13 PM EDT
Reel-Crazy-

You apparently think only hispanics can have trashy houses, eh?

What do you propose we do about the anglos and blacks who live in homes where every car they've ever owned is sitting out in the front yard rusting away? Deport them too?

Deporting illegals will not rid the country of Spanish speaking people. Everyone who speaks Spanish is not an illegal.

Help for xenophobia can be found at www.psych.org, the American Psychiatric Assocoation site.
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by reel-crazy July 29, 2007 12:03 PM EDT
America has sold out to corporate greed and these monsters need to be SEVERELY fined AND imprisoned.

These ILLEGALS are going to learn to speak English and become valuable assets to the American way? Get real. I am sick of driving down the street in my area and seeing gaudy Spanish advertising on construction trucks, roadside billboards, and the few business store fronts left while having to scan past Spanish radio stations on the airwaves of my FM dial while passing these ILLEGAL'S homes.

Did I mention these once fine homes are tainted with several yardcars parked on their unmowed lawns, doors agape with concrete blocks, window screens torn, unsupervised kids in the streets, trash on the sidewalks, and boom boxes blaring, too? Oh yea, I WANT MORE ILLEGALS. Keep them coming. I am happy my property values are progressively nosediving and these ILLEGALS are living a better life. PFFFFFF

You lazy law enforcement agencies need to get off your butts, do your job, and corral these people up and SEND THEM BACK from whence they came from as the LAW dictates instead of making LAME excuses that there is too many of them. THAT'S BU11SH1T and you know it....
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by formrusmcsgt July 29, 2007 11:39 AM EDT
It seems our "judges" only rule popular laws "unconstitutional" these days.
Posted by SharnCedar at 07:46 AM : Jul 29, 2007

Illegal eavesdropping is real popular, eh Sharncedar?

Torture is also popular these days.

I agree with those who wish to see our border protected, of course.

Where I part company with many here is when they call for 15 to 20 million people in the country and repatriating them.

And here are my reasons:

1. Cost. The American Center for progress estimates that the average cost per alien for detection, apprehension, detention, processing, and deportation to be a little over $17,000.

Multiply that by 15 million and see what you get.

2. Children. Many of these illegals are established and have children who are legal American Citizens. Who will assume the responsibility for ll these children should their parents be deported?

3. World perception. At a time where much of our moral authority and respect around the world has been corrupted by neocon policy, we can hardly afford to be seen as a country who shows no compassion in this matter. The ramifications with out latin allies would be horrendous.

We need to close the border, require Mexico to step up and do their part on their side and integrate these families into the fabric of our society.

Oh yeah, putting aside the racism would do us no harm, either.

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by prinzowhales July 29, 2007 11:09 AM EDT
Over two decades have passed since the Reagan Administration 'solved' the illegal immigration problem with a host of open border, free trade nonsense. If anyone doesn't like the open border, there has been ample opportunity to elect people who will secure the border...You just won't vote for them...You tell yourself that they "can't win"...that you have to "pick the lesser of two evils"...

If Americans lack the moral and intellectual stamina to stand up for what they believe in... then, maybe that border should stay wide open and maybe American wages should stagnate and maybe we should all pay more taxes so our noble corporations, that we exist only to serve, can increase their profit margins with cheap non-unionized labour.
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by sharncedar July 29, 2007 10:46 AM EDT
It seems our "judges" only rule popular laws "unconstitutional" these days. These are laws enacted by the common people through initiatives or by small towns where there is more direct democracy. We never see the laws of Congress, or the obvious illegal acts of the president, being ruled unconstitutional. That's their game, that's how these "judges" get rich. But there is a price for everything.

These judges are at war with America. This phony, murderous judge has fired his shot at our country, he has made his attack on our right to democracy. He has disgraced us, done his dirty work for the rich and the elite. Let's not forget. Let's remember the names of every traitor (a web site would help) and see that we the people reward and punish as well, so that these "judges" are served with proper respect for America.

We are not their garbage. Though they treat us that way, this garbage can fight back.
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